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06-04-2005, 09:55 AM
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THN's draft preview

Here's their Top 50:

1. Crosby
2. Pouliot
3. Jack Johnson
4. Brule
5. Ryan
6. Kopitar
7. C. Price
8. J. Skille
9. M. Staal
10. A Bourret
11. R. Parent
12. L Bourdon
13. M. Hanzal
14. G. Latendresse
15. O. Pavelec
16. N. Begfors
17. R. Omarra
18. D. Setoguchi
19. M. Zagrapan
20. T. Rask
21. J. Kindl
22. B. Lee
23. M. Lashoff
24. K. Mcardle
25. R. Stoa
26. B. Mikkelson
27. R. Smolenak
28. C. Durand
29. R. Korhonen
30. T. Pospisil
31. S. Pokulok
32. D. Kohn
33. I. Zubov
34. J. Frazee
35. J. Vojta
36. A. Zubarev
37. D. Istomin
38. A. Cogliano
39. M. Blunden
40. M. lehtonen
41. S. Shirokov
42. J. Neal
43. C. Lawrence
44. JP Levasseur
45. T. Kudelka
46. D. Bertram
47. V. Buravchikov
48. A. Vincent
49. V. Anikeyenko
50. J. Abdelkader

I hope we get a top 9 draft pick this year, because after Staal, there's meh

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I'm not sure how much use Staal would be to us. He's not going to be ahead of Weber, Hamhuis, or Suter. And he's probably right there with Klein. I just can't see picking a top 10-15 player that is immediately going to be 4th or 5th on your 22 and under depth chart. If we are drafting top 10, I want us to move into a position to draft one of the top centers in a spot that he's worth. We really need to address our center problem for the future.

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I'm not sure how much use Staal would be to us. He's not going to be ahead of Weber, Hamhuis, or Suter. And he's probably right there with Klein. I just can't see picking a top 10-15 player that is immediately going to be 4th or 5th on your 22 and under depth chart. If we are drafting top 10, I want us to move into a position to draft one of the top centers in a spot that he's worth. We really need to address our center problem for the future.
Outside Crosby and Brule, I'd LOVE to snare Anze Kopitar. He's already 6'4 and has hands of silk. Said to remind a lot of people of a Vinny Lecavalier type center.

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I'm not sure how much use Staal would be to us. He's not going to be ahead of Weber, Hamhuis, or Suter. And he's probably right there with Klein. I just can't see picking a top 10-15 player that is immediately going to be 4th or 5th on your 22 and under depth chart. If we are drafting top 10, I want us to move into a position to draft one of the top centers in a spot that he's worth. We really need to address our center problem for the future.
By Paul Fenton on np.com Predators always pick in 1st round the best possible player and donīt address some specific problem. IMO they will pick the best possible player if it will be dman or goalie again.

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I wouldn't be horribly disappointed with Latendresse though he has dropped quite a bit in rankings.

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By Paul Fenton on np.com Predators always pick in 1st round the best possible player and donīt address some specific problem. IMO they will pick the best possible player if it will be dman or goalie again.
Every GM in the league says that.

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By Paul Fenton on np.com Predators always pick in 1st round the best possible player and donīt address some specific problem. IMO they will pick the best possible player if it will be dman or goalie again.
Yeah, it's a wise strategy. But what happens when you can't address a need with your pick? You move up or down to satisfy it. Early on in our franchise, we've had plenty of needs. Last year was the first year where our management could reasonably say "we don't need this" referring to a Dman. If our strength in Dmen continue, I don't think you'll see us picking too many Dmen in the first round of next years draft, unless Jack Johnson is available. Like I mentioned previously, we need to move around (possibly) to draft a center. Unless the draft is devoid of centers, there will be several positions in the first round where the "best player available" is a center. We need to find the position that fits us.

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i cant find this issue anywhere here in CO - ill buy it off you if your done with it. any interest?

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By Paul Fenton on np.com Predators always pick in 1st round the best possible player and donīt address some specific problem. IMO they will pick the best possible player if it will be dman or goalie again.

I guess this also depends on who's ranking the "best player". Fenton and Co. ranking may be completely different and skewed due to need. I really don't see us straying too far from the center position to draft, unless there is a bonafide UFA signing that happens before that.

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I guess this also depends on who's ranking the "best player". Fenton and Co. ranking may be completely different and skewed due to need. I really don't see us straying too far from the center position to draft, unless there is a bonafide UFA signing that happens before that.
Even if we land a top notch FA, we still have a glaring need within our system. I wouldn't be suprised if none of our center prospects ever becomes a legit NHLer, much less a top 6 forward. We need centers and, to a lesser extent, goalies.

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Outside Crosby and Brule, I'd LOVE to snare Anze Kopitar. He's already 6'4 and has hands of silk. Said to remind a lot of people of a Vinny Lecavalier type center.
TSN says Pouliot is the one that ressembles Lecavalier.

Skille is overrated on too many draft lists.

Bourdon will go unnoticed although deserving and where the hell is Latendresse?

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I know everyone shys away from selecting the BPA, but if we are at the no. 2 selection......I say select Jack Johnson and be happy. Either that or move back a spot or two. No need to reach with the pick, just move up or down in the draft order as Smokey alluded to earlier.

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I know everyone shys away from selecting the BPA, but if we are at the no. 2 selection......I say select Jack Johnson and be happy. Either that or move back a spot or two. No need to reach with the pick, just move up or down in the draft order as Smokey alluded to earlier.

But you say that like he's the concensus number 2. Is Johnson good enough to pick him over Brule or Kopitar? I don't really think so.

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But you say that like he's the concensus number 2. Is Johnson good enough to pick him over Brule or Kopitar? I don't really think so.
But many others would. There is no reason to reach for a pick in the first round unless you are certain your man will be gone by the time you choose again. Move up or down to get the BPA in the top round. It is the only logical decision, especially considering the length of time it takes NHL prospects to become ready to play.

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But many others would. There is no reason to reach for a pick in the first round unless you are certain your man will be gone by the time you choose again. Move up or down to get the BPA in the top round. It is the only logical decision, especially considering the length of time it takes NHL prospects to become ready to play.
the only concensus is that there is no concensus, though. Every pre-draft ranking has someone different at number 2. Sometimes it's Brule, sometimes it's Johnson...sometimes it's Kopitar or Pouliot. If you hold the number 2 pick and you're sure that the team picking behind you wants a defenseman..then by all means, trade down...but like I said, I think it's irrelevant, because like I said...every team likely disagrees on who is the number 2 player available. You're going on the assumption that Poile views Johnson as number 2...which we have no way of knowing.

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the only concensus is that there is no concensus, though. Every pre-draft ranking has someone different at number 2. Sometimes it's Brule, sometimes it's Johnson...sometimes it's Kopitar or Pouliot. If you hold the number 2 pick and you're sure that the team picking behind you wants a defenseman..then by all means, trade down...but like I said, I think it's irrelevant, because like I said...every team likely disagrees on who is the number 2 player available. You're going on the assumption that Poile views Johnson as number 2...which we have no way of knowing.
I'm going with the assumption to prove a point. If Poile has somone rated higher at no. 2, then by all means, I WANT him to draft that player. I simply took THN's rating and applied the BPA to it. In the end, I think Johnson likely will be the no. 2 overall selection, but I could be wrong. But again, I simply used the no. 2 selection and Johnson as an avenue to prove a point about choosing the BPA everytime in the first round.

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Johnson is the only Dman currently being talked about in the top 5 or so picks. The odds are at least one team would want/rank him enough to move up to the 2 spot.

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Don't think it's ****** after Marc Staal...

For example, Ryan O'Marra is far away, but for me it's a top 10 draft player... or more!

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