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Nabokov to Detroit (570K), Nabby on waivers, claimed by the Islanders

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01-20-2011, 11:49 AM
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apparently he has signed, and is on waivers.

I guess we shall see

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apparently he has signed, and is on waivers.

I guess we shall see
Source? McKenzie says nothing yet.

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Makes it possible for the Wings to defer the bonus amount to next year's cap, but for teams with cap space today, they'll have to carry the entire amount this year.
I thought bonuses were being removed next year? Or am I dreaming?

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Ken Holland is too intelligent to risk him getting caught on waivers. Maybe a mulit-year deal?

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Well he would need to clear re entry waivers and well. Asl the blues about how those work. There are several teams in need of goalies and would claim him

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Ken Holland is too intelligent to risk him getting caught on waivers. Maybe a mulit-year deal?
That has to be exactly it. Maybe like 2 million/year for 2 years?

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01-20-2011, 11:59 AM
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That has to be exactly it. Maybe like 2 million/year for 2 years?
That's still a bargain if you think Nabby is a starter. Needs to be in that 4-5mil range for teams to back off.

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Blues are going to claim him and make him a healthy scratch for the rest of the year, just to exact some measure of revenge.

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Even if they max out the salary they could pay him with the LTIR space given to them (which is 3.5M~) I do not see how he clears waivers.

There are both to many teams that are contending in both conferences that could use goal tending help and have room or are trying to tooth and claw their way to salary floor. Much less of the later, but giving themselves a 500K-800K cushion they could pay him 2.7M-3M maxed out from their current salary.

Yes they could put in play off bonus incentives that gave him a inflated cap hit going through next season. But teams that have room to fit his salary cap hit for this season wouldn't care as long as he fits under their cap right now.

I see no way in hell he clears waivers. In fact if I were another GM and I had room, I would claim him just to keep him out of Detroit's hands. This is chess, not checkers.

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Rare+ridiculous tweet. Was posting Nabokov tweet while going downstairs. Didn't see cat. Stepped on cat. Full header. May have broken arm.

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whoever is the worst team in the league, Isles? should take him then trade him at the deadline

It's a no brainder and will happen if not by the Isles then someone else. he won't make it to a contender but will get traded to one in a month or so anyways

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I think he'll clear. Holland will probably structure this with a heavy playoff bonus incentive. Makes it possible for the Wings to defer the bonus amount to next year's cap, but for teams with cap space today, they'll have to carry the entire amount this year.

Teams pushed up against the cap may want to save their own cap space for their own injuries, etc. It's a long year.
Nabby isn't eligible for bonus clauses. He was only age 34 when the 2010-2011 season started.

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Holland might just be doing Stevie Y a favour.

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whoever is the worst team in the league, Isles? should take him then trade him at the deadline

It's a no brainder and will happen if not by the Isles then someone else. he won't make it to a contender but will get traded to one in a month or so anyways
Doesn't work that way. Whoever claims him from the waivers would have to place him on waivers again before they could trade him this season.

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That's still a bargain if you think Nabby is a starter. Needs to be in that 4-5mil range for teams to back off.
With a 35+ year old contract I would think a lot of teams would back off at anything over 2 mill.

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whoever is the worst team in the league, Isles? should take him then trade him at the deadline

It's a no brainder and will happen if not by the Isles then someone else. he won't make it to a contender but will get traded to one in a month or so anyways
Teams are not allowed to trade players claimed this way without first putting them through waivers again. There's no point in a team trying to claim Nabokov for later trading purposes.

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Nabby isn't eligible for bonus clauses. He was only age 34 when the 2010-2011 season started.
He would be 35 when the season started. Jul 25 1975 is his birthdate.

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Meanwhile, Nabby has been quite sieve-like this season in St. Petersburg.


Howard's injury a long one?

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With a 35+ year old contract I would think a lot of teams would back off at anything over 2 mill.
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He would be 35 when the season started. Jul 25 1975 is his birthdate.
He wouldn't be a 35+ player. The CBA goes by the player's age as of the June 30th immediately preceding the season that the contract is for. Nabokov was 34 on June 30th, 2010.

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(ii) Players aged 35 or older as of June 30 prior to the League Year in which the SPC is to be effective, who have signed a one-year SPC for that League Year;

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Actually, with the LTIR-possibilities, the Wings can sign him for like 6-7 millions if they want, thus scaring off virtually all teams that might be interested to have him. (Flyers, Caps, Sharks, Hawks that have been mentioned here, for instance).

Maybe the Avs, though? Tons of capspace, and mess with the Wings? Not that Andy didn't play lights out last years playoffs, though.

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With a 35+ year old contract I would think a lot of teams would back off at anything over 2 mill.
35+ contracts have to be multi-year contracts to have any performance bonuses. I don't think Detroit is willing to take that risk.

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With a 35+ year old contract I would think a lot of teams would back off at anything over 2 mill.
I doubt it. 35+ contracts aren't that bad now that we know 100% that you can get rid of the cap with LTIR.

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Blues are going to claim him and make him a healthy scratch for the rest of the year, just to exact some measure of revenge.
Haha this was my thought too; St. Louis grabs him just because they're so pissed about their recent waiver wire experiences.

On a more serious note I can't see Nabokov getting through waivers if the terms are moderately easy to manage (financially), and it isn't like Detroit has a wack-load of cap-space either.

And on a positive note, if Nabokov does play for Detroit it'll make them a ton easier to handle in the playoffs.

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