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Nabokov to Detroit (570K), Nabby on waivers, claimed by the Islanders

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01-20-2011, 03:08 PM
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Here is weak goal to Sharp to tie game 1 of WCF



Buff's GWG



Both weak goals that most goalies stop and both goals that sucked the life out of Sharks in that game

Buff's OT winner in gm 3



I am sure Shark fans can post some more

Point of story is he gives up weak goals that kill his team at the worst times

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I'm in the same boat! I have Howard in my Yahoo league...if Nabby goes to Detroit this will hurt me! I must get him first
Here's the problem. I asked Yahoo about this in December when his contract was first terminated. They said he has to go through waivers first to enter the free agent pool. In other words, unless you have a high waiver claim you won't get him. I'm essentially screwed if he ends up in Detroit, because my waiver position is 6th, and I happen to know the number 4 guy will definitely take him. I have Howard. So basically, there's no shot I get him, and I lose one of my starters basically as a result. Sucks.

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Nabokov allows some truly dreadful goals (Soft backbreaking goals)

Guy was weak vs Hawks in WCF and has been weak for Sharks in playoffs for years

Puts up good stats but he allows just absoluely demoralizing goals
I was under the impression that Niemi stole the series against the Sharks for Chicago.

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01-20-2011, 03:17 PM
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I was under the impression that Niemi stole the series against the Sharks for Chicago.
Niemi was outstanding but Nabokov was weak giving up soft goals

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01-20-2011, 03:21 PM
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Not sure how I feel about this one... Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

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01-20-2011, 03:22 PM
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The Sharks scored 7 goals in that series. Think Nabby might have fared a little better had he been given some goal support? He's a great goalie, far, far better than Howard will ever be or Osgood ever was. And if you want to talk about soft, backbreaking goals in the playoffs, look no further than Howard's stellar performance against SJ in Round 2 last spring.
If you're talking about the regular season - yes. Post-season, Osgood > Nabokov.

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01-20-2011, 03:25 PM
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If you're talking about the regular season - yes. Post-season, Osgood > Nabokov.
It's impossible to say one way or the other, given that they've played behind far, far different teams.

Osgood definitely has accomplished much more, but had Nabby played behind those same teams, I'm not sure the results would have changed much.

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01-20-2011, 03:26 PM
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Looks like Nabby finally wants to win a cup.

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01-20-2011, 03:28 PM
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Hard to imagine Nabokov doesn't get claimed at $570,000 or as the last tweet indicated...roughly $250,000 pro-rated.
He'll be claimed

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If you're talking about the regular season - yes. Post-season, Osgood > Nabokov.
Someone posted it earlier, but it bears repeating:

Nabokov has never lost a playoff series with San Jose when the team in front of him as scored 2+ goals per game.

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I've already said this, but it's unrealistic to expect Detroit to sign Nabakov.

First of all, they have no cap space. And in order to avoid him being claimed on waivers, they would have to sign him to roughly at a minimum 4M a year for at least 4-5 years. I'm just guessing his worth, I think he's worth at least that and it would at least give some teams pause at picking him up.

That means Detroit has to trade someone. They would have to trade Zetterburg, Franzen, Lidstrom or Rafalski. I don't see that happening. Or they would have to trade 2 players of equal cap value. I'm not sure what their options are considering the they have some players 35+ and also players with NTC.

Other teams interested in Nabakov that could fit at least 4-5M in cap space for him I think would include Tampa Bay, maybe the Islanders, Edmonton, Colorado, Columbus, Florida (if they don't think they can resign Vokuun), and Phoenix could give him a look depending on Bryzgalov negotiations. If you bump down the cap hit a M or so I think you have 2-3 more interested teams like Toronto.

So even if you sign him to a high contract there are at least 5-6 teams that would consider taking him on the waiver wire. It would have to be a really long deal for the cap hit Detroit could afford if they got rid of a key player to give those teams pause in teams of picking him up.

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only 570,000? No chance he makes it to Detroit.

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Why Cant I Pick Him Up In Yahoo Fantasy Hockey

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only 570,000? No chance he makes it to Detroit.
at that little, i highly doubt he gets past the isles.

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only 570,000? No chance he makes it to Detroit.
I don't think he'd make it to Detroit if he was signed for 3M

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01-20-2011, 03:32 PM
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because he hasn't signed yet, and is in the KHL

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I've already said this, but it's unrealistic to expect Detroit to sign Nabakov.

First of all, they have no cap space. And in order to avoid him being claimed on waivers, they would have to sign him to roughly at a minimum 4M a year for at least 4-5 years. I'm just guessing his worth, I think he's worth at least that and it would at least give some teams pause at picking him up.

That means Detroit has to trade someone. They would have to trade Zetterburg, Franzen, Lidstrom or Rafalski. I don't see that happening. Or they would have to trade 2 players of equal cap value. I'm not sure what their options are considering the they have some players 35+ and also players with NTC.

Other teams interested in Nabakov that could fit at least 4-5M in cap space for him I think would include Tampa Bay, maybe the Islanders, Edmonton, Colorado, Columbus, Florida (if they don't think they can resign Vokuun), and Phoenix could give him a look depending on Bryzgalov negotiations. If you bump down the cap hit a M or so I think you have 2-3 more interested teams like Toronto.

So even if you sign him to a high contract there are at least 5-6 teams that would consider taking him on the waiver wire. It would have to be a really long deal for the cap hit Detroit could afford if they got rid of a key player to give those teams pause in teams of picking him up.
So, to sum it up. A 2 year 10 million dollar deal will be claimed by teams on the waiver wire. So Detroit has to go higher.. And they must trade a good player to make it happen.


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01-20-2011, 03:34 PM
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Two options here.
1) Holland is offering him peanuts. If he clears waivers, great, you just got a cheap veteran goalie. If not, you lost money in lawyer paperwork and ate up some cell phone minutes.
2) Holland is going to pay him serious dough, enough so that teams think twice before claiming him. In this case, expect Hudler to be traded or waived.

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I guess Detroit figures they weren't going to get Nabokov no matter what and him getting claimed will lead to some other goalie being waived and Wings get a chance to grab him.

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It's impossible to say one way or the other, given that they've played behind far, far different teams.

Osgood definitely has accomplished much more, but had Nabby played behind those same teams, I'm not sure the results would have changed much.
Well we're hardly talking about a Sharks team that just snuck into the 8th playoff spot in the West all those seasons are we?

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And welcome to the Islanders, Mr Nabakov.

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nothing special. And Koshechkin is much cheaper than Nabokov.



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And welcome to the Islanders, Mr Nabakov.
Why would the islanders want to get better this season?

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maybe Holland just feels bad about the Devils train wreck of a season and is trying to get them a goalie?

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I guess Detroit figures they weren't going to get Nabokov no matter what and him getting claimed will lead to some other goalie being waived and Wings get a chance to grab him.
This is sort of what I mean when I said bigger picture on page 1.

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