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01-21-2011, 07:40 AM
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Zero chance he goes to the Red Wings, somoene will claim him IMO. If our goalie situation was shaky, or Leighton was involved I would want him. But with how well Bouch and Bob ase playing, I'll pass.


Is it correct in saying that if Detroit does get him, they CAN'T trade him? They must keep him or offer him back up on waivers?

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01-21-2011, 07:59 AM
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Zero chance he goes to the Red Wings, somoene will claim him IMO. If our goalie situation was shaky, or Leighton was involved I would want him. But with how well Bouch and Bob ase playing, I'll pass.


Is it correct in saying that if Detroit does get him, they CAN'T trade him? They must keep him or offer him back up on waivers?
Yes and No. They can trade him, but Nabokov would have to clear waivers before the trade is completed. If he clears, then the trade goes through.

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01-21-2011, 08:25 AM
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Yes and No. They can trade him, but Nabokov would have to clear waivers before the trade is completed. If he clears, then the trade goes through.
Cool, thanks.

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Aha, this is how it might all come together.

There's a rumor that NJ will claim Nabokov and then promptly waive him.

The Devils get first dibs, so they'll get Nabokov. When they waive him right afterwards, Detroit gets first dibs as they are Nabby's original team.

That sucks.
What's in that for Jersey?

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I call BS. Sounds like collusion between NJ and Det. What kind of kickback is NJ getting to make this worth their while? It can't be ensuring Nabby doesn't play in the Eastern Conference.

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He has to clear waviers, $570,000 - someone steal him.... NYI? TAMPA? EDM?

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The Red Wings have something in mind. From what I understand, they've signed Nabby to an absurdly cheap, one year contract.

If the Devils take him and waive him, I can see them getting a 3rd or 4th round pick for nothing. And maybe they'd like to stick a bit of their **** inside of Bettman's ass.

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The Red Wings have something in mind. From what I understand, they've signed Nabby to an absurdly cheap, one year contract.

If the Devils take him and waive him, I can see them getting a 3rd or 4th round pick for nothing. And maybe they'd like to stick a bit of their **** inside of Bettman's ass.
After the Kovy thing, I can see that.

Either way, medium risk, high reward for the Red Wings. Let's see what happens.

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The Detroit offer sheet has a NMC, so as I see it (and as posted widely elsewhere) a claiming team couldn't re-waive Nabokov without his consent. Plus, the claiming team can't trade him without putting him through waivers + his okay.

Since Philadelphia has the 30th option on Nabokov, it's all but impossible that he becomes available. Were I Holmgren, I'd put in a claim all the same, just to stay active as this shakes out, and to complicate things a bit for Detroit if it ever came to that. What could be more interesting is the trickle down effect if another team claims him and subsequently puts another G on waivers or looks to deal. Probably Detroit would be on the phone looking to make a minor deal first, but it's intriguing who might become available. Niittymaki? Turco?

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Zero chance he goes to the Red Wings, somoene will claim him IMO. If our goalie situation was shaky, or Leighton was involved I would want him. But with how well Bouch and Bob ase playing, I'll pass.


Is it correct in saying that if Detroit does get him, they CAN'T trade him? They must keep him or offer him back up on waivers?
I read that the Islanders were going to offer for him

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If Nabokov goes somewhere he doesn't want to go to, then he just doesn't report.

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If Nabokov goes somewhere he doesn't want to go to, then he just doesn't report.
If I were him then I'd go to any playoff team but, otherwise, not report.

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If I were him then I'd go to any playoff team but, otherwise, not report.
Can he actually play that card if he wants to play any professional hockey? He got waived in the KHL, right? If he doesn't play there of the NHL, I can't think of any other league where he'll make $570,000 per year. I think he's just going to have to take it and deal.

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If I were him then I'd go to any playoff team but, otherwise, not report.
Whats the point. I really don't think this year is a year where Nabokov needs to win a Cup. I mean, sure, he would like to, but after the whole debacle with the KHL, I think Nabby's main focus is to go to a team where he will be a starter and make a case for himself as a sought after goalie in free agency.

If I were him I would just go to a team that is desperate for a starter just to get his name out there again. Not so much to win a cup.

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Whats the point. I really don't think this year is a year where Nabokov needs to win a Cup. I mean, sure, he would like to, but after the whole debacle with the KHL, I think Nabby's main focus is to go to a team where he will be a starter and make a case for himself as a sought after goalie in free agency.

If I were him I would just go to a team that is desperate for a starter just to get his name out there again. Not so much to win a cup.
It's only a one year contract. He'll be free to sign with any team in the offseason. He didn't have a starting job this year only because he still thought that he was worth 4-5M+.

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Can he actually play that card if he wants to play any professional hockey? He got waived in the KHL, right? If he doesn't play there of the NHL, I can't think of any other league where he'll make $570,000 per year. I think he's just going to have to take it and deal.
Either way, he can almost certainly get with a team next year for the right price.

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If I were him then I'd go to any playoff team but, otherwise, not report.
Well, if he is claimed by the Rangers (hypothetical), what do you do?

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Someone on the trade forums posted this.

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Pierre LeBrun was just on the TEAM 1040 and said Philly might put a claim in. They are last in the waiver priority.

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Why not? I like the idea of keeping his iron in the fire.

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To be truthful, considering where Nabokov is right now (waived by a KHL team), I would rather keep Boosh as our backup at his salary the way he's been playing than bring Nabby as a backup at $285K.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And right now the Flyers are a ****ing Lamborghini.

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I wouldn't be opposed to claiming him just to prevent DET from having him. We can fit him under the cap right now so we could run with three goalies (or send Bob down). I said this when I first heard about the signing, but sending Bob down in favor of Nabby is not a bad idea. At the moment Boosh seems like he is playing better than Bob and Nabby at least has a history of good play, albeit not this season. So here's what I do if I am GM.

Put in a claim simply to prevent DET from getting him.

If he gets claimed by someone else, who cares because Boosh and Bob are playing well right now.

If he makes it down to PHI, now we have a starting goalie that was the initial priority of this team anyway.

Send Bob down and let him be the everyday starter in ADK.

Start Nabby a few games in a row to see how he does.

If he sucks, ok, Boosh is the Starter and Bob and be can called back up.

From what I understand there is a NMC in the contract so I guess he can't simply be waived, but with a contract that size it wouldn't be too bad keeping him on the roster and just not playing him. To me it seems like a low risk VERY HIGH reward.

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Put in a claim simply to prevent DET from getting him.
That's pretty much all I care about. But I dont want them to do it... Why aren't other teams doing it?! It makes no sense.

Is this like the good ol' boy network at work here? Why are the Flyers going to be the only team to stop this from happening? In any other sport EVERY team would be trying to stop the top 5 teams from becoming god like, but here it seems like the Flyers would be the only one putting a claim in.

Imagine if Man U or Barca were getting a player and ANY team in the league could halt the transfer... Teams wouldn't stop dialing. Lionel Messi going to Man U... Man City, do you want to stop this transfer? How about you Tottenham? No? OK!... Like come on. Granted he's no Messi, but he is a really good goalie, and any team can fit in a really good goalie...

The only thing I can think of is the NMC is scaring people away. He could be rusty, he could have lost a major step I guess... But I dunno. If Detroit thinks he's worthy of it, then uh... he's probably A-OK.

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In a move that is getting popular with NHL general managers, goaltender Evgeni Nabokov was claimed off waivers by the New York Islanders on Saturday after signing with the Detroit Red Wings on Thursday.

Despite signing with the Wings, Nabokov had to clear waivers to return to the NHL. The St. Louis Blues lost both Marek Svatos and Kyle Wellwood through the same procedure earlier this season. Svatos was claimed by Nashville and Wellwood was scooped up by San Jose.

The contract Nabokov signed with the Red Wings includes a no-move clause and states that he cannot be put back on waivers without his permission. Also, he is ineligible to play in American Hockey League this season due to league rules regarding free agents coming from Europe after Decemeber 15.

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Didn't matter, he didn't get past the Islanders.


Another great job by an agent putting his player in a position to get completely screwed. I bet Nabokov wishes he could have draft weekend back when he had an offer on the table from us.

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I don't see the guy reporting to the Isles but what do I know....

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