HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk
Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk Trade rumors, transactions, and free agent talk. Rumors must contain the word RUMOR in post title. Proposals must contain the word PROPOSAL in post title.

Nabokov claimed by Islanders. Will not report & Can't be traded

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
01-22-2011, 04:03 PM
  #976
Ail
Occult Knowledge
 
Ail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Mysidia
Country: United States
Posts: 14,610
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by gongshowmonkey View Post
I'm pretty sure there's a conspiracy theory around this whole thing.

Anyone wanna take a stab at it?
You see, some punk kids were setting off fireworks which killed a bunch of birds, and fish across the U.S. They wanted to pin it on Nabokov because he's a communist and the easiest way to get him here was to have a contender offer him a contract. However since Wang is a communist he made Snow claim Nabby off waivers so he would have an excuse not to report and avoid being tried in U.S. courts.

__________________
Ail is online now  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:03 PM
  #977
SomeDude
Registered User
 
SomeDude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Pittsburghish
Posts: 5,684
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MXD View Post
Thanks for the AHL rule, didn't knew that.

On the Nabokov/Radulov front...

If he doesn't show up, Nabby owes a HALF season to the Isles. How could that be managed?!?!?!
He doesn't owe anything to the Isles after this year. His contract will be up. It will just mean he spent the term of his contract on suspension so he was not compensated. This has no impact on next year.

SomeDude is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:03 PM
  #978
Rover*
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 13,845
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eaglepride View Post
Thanks for finding it again. Jesus I typed all the stuff " Nabakov going to a contender only, not reporting" and what not just found damn twitter news a tool I couldn't care less about. so thanks again
So did you find a link that says before Nabokov got claimed that he would only go to a contender?

Rover* is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:03 PM
  #979
IslesFanatic
**** you SnoWang
 
IslesFanatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Long Island
Country: United States
Posts: 12,358
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by VM1138 View Post
The major fact we've learned here is that the waiver rules applying to Euro player are ridiculous unfair and illogical.

The second, minor fact we've learned is that the Isles were dicks to steal a player who they have no connection to, have not negotiated with, and who clearly intended (whether stated or not) to go to a contender. The super-dick move was to not waive him when he said he would not report.

EDIT: I, too, feel bad for Nabby. To think he could be going to a Cup contender or at least a solid team. His plan was to resurrect his career with a strong showing this season to get a new contract next season. Now he's going to have to go to a team he has no connection with, to basically be sacrificed to the wolves every night. Thank to the Isles, when his stats inevitably suck, he'll have trouble finding work next year. That's who I feel bad for, and I totally understand Nabby not wanting to report to destroy his career.
So every team that put in a claim were dicks to do so? Because the Isles weren't the only team to put in a claim and PLAY BY THE RULES.

IslesFanatic is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:03 PM
  #980
ocarina
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,407
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by despec View Post
Do you think Snow really wants a disgruntled goalie in the dressing room for the entire season with a bunch of kids?
That's only if he reports. I'm sure if he got a little more time to think about it, he would suck it up, make the best of it, and then use this opportunity to get another (and potentially better) contract.

ocarina is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:04 PM
  #981
Rover*
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 13,845
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gulvorn View Post
Suspended players don't dress. They sit at home making no money.
Which makes it pointless. If you force him to play he won't be happy if you don't he won't improve the team so why bother forcing him to honor his contract.

Rover* is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:04 PM
  #982
Eaglepride*
#5 in Wotan we trust
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Promiseland Walhalla
Posts: 3,503
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by PredsV82 View Post
That was posted AFTER he was claimed. multiple sources have reoprted that his agent said he would play for anyone who claimed him
http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/bob_mckenzie/?id=350469 heres the story thanks for someone finding it again.

Eaglepride* is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:05 PM
  #983
VM1138
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 318
vCash: 500
Another point as I understand it, is that he doesn't have to honor the contract. If he refuses to report and the NYI don't waive him, he just sits until the summer. He was not previously owned by the Islanders and thus doesn't "owe" them anything. It's not like arbitration where a panel rules a player can go overseas but owes the team the rest of his signed contract (i.e. the Hudler situation with the Wings) when he returns.

VM1138 is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:05 PM
  #984
Rover*
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 13,845
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ocarina View Post
That's only if he reports. I'm sure if he got a little more time to think about it, he would suck it up, make the best of it, and then use this opportunity to get another (and potentially better) contract.
Again you don't want a player in the dressing room that doesn't want to be there especially with a young team.

Rover* is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:06 PM
  #985
Rover*
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 13,845
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eaglepride View Post
http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/bob_mckenzie/?id=350469 heres the story thanks for someone finding it again.
Please post the quote where Nabokov or his agent said he will only play for a contender.

Rover* is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:06 PM
  #986
ocarina
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,407
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by despec View Post
Which makes it pointless. If you force him to play he won't be happy if you don't he won't improve the team so why bother forcing him to honor his contract.
to show that you won't be pushed around.

They have no obligation to Nabokov to catering to his wants.

ocarina is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:07 PM
  #987
Rover*
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 13,845
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ocarina View Post
to show that you won't be pushed around.

They have no obligation to Nabokov to catering to his wants.

I don't think the Islander wants to known as an organization that ends a player's career just to prove a point.

Rover* is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:07 PM
  #988
PredsV82
Snot Doc
 
PredsV82's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Kentucky
Country: Scotland
Posts: 11,311
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by VM1138 View Post
The major fact we've learned here is that the waiver rules applying to Euro player are ridiculous unfair and illogical.

.
just because you say this doesnt make it so.

the rule is logical and fair.

without it there would be chaos and evey february there would be 15 aged euros signing with the top 5 teams.

PredsV82 is online now  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:07 PM
  #989
ocarina
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,407
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by despec View Post
Again you don't want a player in the dressing room that doesn't want to be there especially with a young team.
If he decides to be that disruptive of a player and hurt his reputation, that's his loss.

I think Nabby would be smart enough to just keep a straight face and make the most of it if he changes his mind.

ocarina is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:08 PM
  #990
sonny side up
Registered User
 
sonny side up's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: the dark room
Country: United States
Posts: 2,540
vCash: 500
post 1000 in this thread?

EDIT: Hooray it is!!!

Why cant he be traded, i dont feel like reading through 40 pages

sonny side up is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:08 PM
  #991
VM1138
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 318
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrFeelgood View Post
Why should the Isles do any favors for Nabby if he's going to not report for them? He's giving them the finger, and they should just be nice and let him go win a cup in Detroit?
Essentially, yes. They should have been smart enough to know that they would embarass themselves with this signing. If Snow had any brains he would be able to read between the lines and know Nabby did not want to go to a perennial bottom-feeder to have his stats destroyed and his chances of a career next season obliterated.

Also, you know Snow knew about Nabby not reporting before it was spread to the press, he could have averted the whole thing by letting him go. Like others have said, clinging to him just makes NYI look vindictive.

VM1138 is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:08 PM
  #992
CREW99AW
Registered User
 
CREW99AW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 27,166
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by bumperkisser View Post
I dont think snow suspending him w/o pay is a good thing for the organization from the perspective of trying to attract players to play as a part of the NYI organization.. sure, claiming him off waivers is fine, but he if clearly does not want to play for you then do him a favour and let him do his thing.. im pretty sure that shows a sign of respect from the management to the players and there would really be no down side to this except that the NYI organization wasted 3.5k
Not interested in doing Nabokov any favors.

He and his rep want to showcase Nabokov,get him a contract offer from some team next summer.

Let him sit out the rest of this season.

CREW99AW is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:08 PM
  #993
Rover*
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 13,845
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ocarina View Post
If he decides to be that disruptive of a player and hurt his reputation, that's his loss.
And the Islanders loss because it messes with locker room chemistry.

Rover* is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:09 PM
  #994
Seachd
Registered User
 
Seachd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: The Fail
Posts: 13,244
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MXD View Post
If he doesn't show up, Nabby owes a HALF season to the Isles. How could that be managed?!?!?!
He can't owe just half a season. Players only become free agents on July 1. If he is suspended, and still under contract for the Islanders at all next season, it's for the whole season.

Seachd is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:09 PM
  #995
Scottrockztheworld*
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Vancouver
Country: Canada
Posts: 8,301
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Citizen Kane View Post
Would you want to play for the NYI?

He signed intending to play for Detroit...you know...a team that isn't a complete embarrassment.

At least with Svatos and Wellwood, they went to competitive, respectable organizations.
Lets just put it this way:

Id rather get paid and play in the NHL then sit on my butt at home. It would suck having to play for a bottom feeder but thats the gamble you take when you sign in the KHL instead of the NHL.

Scottrockztheworld* is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:09 PM
  #996
MXD
Registered User
 
MXD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 20,085
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post

How is it different? Radulov was in a middle of a 3 year deal. Nabokov is in the middle of a 1 year deal. The length of deals makes no difference.
The thing is...
The deal was signed in January 2011, and ends in June 2011.

Unless the CBA provides that all deal are deemed to be signed in July, Nabby ends up owing 6 months (or +- 40 games) to the Isles if he doesn't report.

First : How do they manage a "owing" period of 6 months? They allow Nabby to walk in December?

Second : If Nabby is suspended, doesn't play a game, and ends up owing a WHOLE YEAR to the Isles at 550K....

Expect a lawsuit, because it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

MXD is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:09 PM
  #997
Roman Yoshi
Ellis too short
 
Roman Yoshi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Franklin, TN
Country: United States
Posts: 4,358
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by PredsV82 View Post
just because you say this doesnt make it so.

the rule is logical and fair.

without it there would be chaos and evey february there would be 15 aged euros signing with the top 5 teams.
exactly, but don't you dare use logic in the rumor and trade offer section of this site... god forbid!

Roman Yoshi is offline  
Old
01-22-2011, 04:10 PM
  #998
mouser
Global Moderator
Business of Hockey
 
mouser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: South Mountain
Posts: 10,748
vCash: 500
Post limit, new thread here:

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=868023

mouser is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:54 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.