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01-22-2011, 09:34 PM
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01-22-2011, 09:34 PM
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As a Pens fan I'd do something around Tangradi and Kulemin.
Wouldn't make sense for the Leafs. I would rather have Kulemin, and he is currently our only skilled LW with size, so that would just create another hole.

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01-22-2011, 09:35 PM
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As a Pens fan I'd do something around Tangradi and Kulemin.
Of course you would but why would we

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Not trading Kule, and Tangradi hasn't looked great.
Fine with the first part, but what exactly don't you like about Tangradi? He's been a bull down in the AHL for the baby Pens.

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01-22-2011, 09:37 PM
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MPS for Schenn
I would certainly consider this. I think it is a pretty even swap to make. It does create a big hole though on defense, but it also fills one up front (speaking for the future).

Burke want's someone who can fill that role now unfortunately, nixing any possibility of a trade like this.

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01-22-2011, 09:38 PM
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I'm just thinking that Toronto doesn't necessarily have the assets to go out and get those type of guys, that's why it would be more beneficial to simply pay for a boom-bust sort of prospect for a lower cost.
That doesn't mean they are going to waste assets on getting players they don't need. Paying for a boom-bust prospect is mediocre alternative, but that prospect better at least project to be that type of player.

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01-22-2011, 09:41 PM
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Taylor Hall for Luke Schenn

two prospects that are a bit overhyped, and fill the needs of both teams
sad but true

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01-22-2011, 09:42 PM
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Canucks would likely look into moving a Raymond + Shirokov package for a tough top 6 guy. I'm not that familiar with the Leafs system though.
Why not something around:

Shirokov
Raymond
3rd round pick

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MacArthur
Sjostrom

Brings cap relief to the Nucks and also brings in a decent top 6 with some physical side(MacArthur). A PKer that could fill out the 4th line of Vancouver(Sjostrom) a bit better than say a Glass or Volpatti.

The leafs get 2 young guys, one of which(Raymond) could produce what MacArthur does, just having a down year, and hasn't played every game this season. Toronto will probably let Sjostrom hit the market which is what makes up for it with bringing in Shirokov.

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01-22-2011, 09:58 PM
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Of course you would but why would we
The premise of this thread is a talented LW prospect to the Leafs. Tangradi is that and a prototypical Burke style player. I also said "something around" not "straight up." What do you think you're going to give up for a team's top prospect?

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01-22-2011, 10:00 PM
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beach for kessel,grabo and a 2nd

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beach for kessel,grabo and a 2nd
Only if you throw in Campbell.

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Why not something around:

Shirokov
Raymond
3rd round pick

for

MacArthur
Sjostrom

Brings cap relief to the Nucks and also brings in a decent top 6 with some physical side(MacArthur). A PKer that could fill out the 4th line of Vancouver(Sjostrom) a bit better than say a Glass or Volpatti.

The leafs get 2 young guys, one of which(Raymond) could produce what MacArthur does, just having a down year, and hasn't played every game this season. Toronto will probably let Sjostrom hit the market which is what makes up for it with bringing in Shirokov.
Raymond alone for that package would be laughed at. Why add Shiro and a 3rd? That's just a new level of stupid. MacArthur wouldn't be top 9 on this team (even with Raymond gone, we have Tambellini, Burrows, the Sedins, Kesler, Samuelsson, Hansen, Torres and Malhotra), and Sjostrom I've always liked, but is just a lateral move over several of our bottom six as it stands. And you expect us to give up Raymond (under preforming and we know his value is low), at the very least a star AHLer and a pick...awful. That's worse the god's trolling.

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01-22-2011, 10:29 PM
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Fine with the first part, but what exactly don't you like about Tangradi? He's been a bull down in the AHL for the baby Pens.
Yea and Kuli has been a bull for us in the NHL. It's a lateral move at best. Tangradi hopes to be the player Kuli is. Best case senario is we traded Kuli for a similar type of player and worst case we trade hi for a bust.
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The premise of this thread is a talented LW prospect to the Leafs. Tangradi is that and a prototypical Burke style player. I also said "something around" not "straight up." What do you think you're going to give up for a team's top prospect?
Trading our only legitimate top 6 LW for another LW would solve nothing. We would still only have 1 top 6 LW. Really since Tangradi isnt ready yet we would have no LW's that belong in a top 6 roll on a NHL club.

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01-22-2011, 10:47 PM
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The premise of this thread is a talented LW prospect to the Leafs. Tangradi is that and a prototypical Burke style player. I also said "something around" not "straight up." What do you think you're going to give up for a team's top prospect?
I saw the "something around", the reason im laughing is that we are looking for another Kulemin. Basically this is just a downgrade in the position we are already weak in.

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01-22-2011, 10:51 PM
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Yea and Kuli has been a bull for us in the NHL. It's a lateral move at best. Tangradi hopes to be the player Kuli is. Best case senario is we traded Kuli for a similar type of player and worst case we trade hi for a bust.

Trading our only legitimate top 6 LW for another LW would solve nothing. We would still only have 1 top 6 LW. Really since Tangradi isnt ready yet we would have no LW's that belong in a top 6 roll on a NHL club.
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I saw the "something around", the reason im laughing is that we are looking for another Kulemin. Basically this is just a downgrade in the position we are already weak in.
Fair enough.

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01-22-2011, 10:54 PM
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Leafs need to blow it up, acquire picks and draft some LWs

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01-22-2011, 11:34 PM
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Toronto doesn't neccessarily need a highly talented LW prospect, what they really need is a big LWer with top line talent who can play right now. If they were shopping for prospects (they're not), a guy like Beach would obviously be a target. Guys like Omark, Shirokov, Paajarvi would not.
MPS is a big talented LW prospect. He's 6'2 200+ as a 19 year old.

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MPS is a big talented LW prospect. He's 6'2 200+ as a 19 year old.
He's still an open ice player.

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01-22-2011, 11:42 PM
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yes a 19 year old carrying his team is so bad, hes obviously a bust lets just trade him

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You guys have Versteeg, Kulemin, and MacArthur with Caputi, Ross, Mueller, D'Amigo and McKegg in your prospect pool. Why do you need help on the left wing?

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You guys have Versteeg, Kulemin, and MacArthur with Caputi, Ross, Mueller, D'Amigo and McKegg in your prospect pool. Why do you need help on the left wing?
Impatience, and lack of trust in the Leafs' player development.

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You guys have Versteeg, Kulemin, and MacArthur with Caputi, Ross, Mueller, D'Amigo and McKegg in your prospect pool. Why do you need help on the left wing?
Because the only one who's a remotely good fit to play opposite Phil Kessel is Kulemin, and even he's not really the ideal player because he prefers to get himself into the high slot.

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Schenn for Eberle might be a good deal even tho he's a RW...Hall wouldn't be an option...and I wouldn;t like a Schenn for MPS as a Leafs fan..


actually surprised this didn't turn intoa Clowe for Kaberle or Beach thread


Would like to get Neal if he was actually available...also..Sharpes 25 goals that was rumored all last year to the Leafs would be excellent...although he's not moving anymore...Moulson? JVR would also be great...what about something starting with Kadri Gunnar for JVR


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01-23-2011, 01:39 AM
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Why are you guys laughing at my proposal?

Let's face facts here:

The Leafs need more offense. They have a surplus of defense.

The Oilers need better defense. They have a surplus of young, talented forwards.

Isn't it obvious that you would swap Hall and Schenn? The Oilers wouldn't be in bad shape. They'd still have Eberle, Omark, and MPS as young forwards. Their D would be terribly better overnight and with some added depth through free agency they could make the playoffs. Same goes with the Leafs. Too many defensemen, not enough scoring forwards. They can afford to lose Schenn for Hall.

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