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01-23-2011, 05:05 AM
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Fisher, Alfredsson to Nashville

To Nashville (9.535 cap space):
RW Daniel Alfredsson (4.875 cap hit)
C Mike Fisher (4.2 cap hit)
D Patrick Wiercioch (7.5C prospect grade)

To Ottawa:
D prospect Jonathan Blum (8.0B)
Nashville's 1st round pick 2011
New Jersey's 2nd rd pick 2011 (belonging to Nashville; 31st overall)

Blum, Jared Cowen and David Rundbland all NHL-ready for 2011/12 with top 4 D potential. They join 20 year-old all star D man Karlsson to cement the back end. Ottawa gains 9 million in cap space for free agents. Nashville wins Stanley Cup with Sens top two leaders, including the husband of Nashville's Carrie Underwood.

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01-23-2011, 05:07 AM
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Yes, because having 3 rookies and a 21 year old leading your defense is totally normal.

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01-23-2011, 05:26 AM
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Yes, because having 3 rookies and a 21 year old leading your defense is totally normal.
XD so true.

Though you'll still have Gonchar helping the Sens backend.

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01-23-2011, 06:01 AM
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As good as Alfie is, for some reason, I dont see him being moved this season. Maybe Draft-day like Gagne last year.

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01-23-2011, 07:23 AM
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To Nashville (9.535 cap space):
RW Daniel Alfredsson (4.875 cap hit)
C Mike Fisher (4.2 cap hit)
D Patrick Wiercioch (7.5C prospect grade)

To Ottawa:
D prospect Jonathan Blum (8.0B)
Nashville's 1st round pick 2011
New Jersey's 2nd rd pick 2011 (belonging to Nashville; 31st overall)

Blum, Jared Cowen and David Rundbland all NHL-ready for 2011/12 with top 4 D potential. They join 20 year-old all star D man Karlsson to cement the back end. Ottawa gains 9 million in cap space for free agents. Nashville wins Stanley Cup with Sens top two leaders, including the husband of Nashville's Carrie Underwood.
Not a good deal for ottawa to trade fisher and alfredson and wiercioch for blum and 2 picks no that is not good at all and both of those picks are not high if fisher and alfredson are traded in the same deal the return is going to have to be more that.

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01-23-2011, 07:24 AM
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and how much of this salary would we be paying? You would have to take something away for us to be able to/want to complete this deal.

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01-23-2011, 08:18 AM
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To Nashville (9.535 cap space):
RW Daniel Alfredsson (4.875 cap hit)
C Mike Fisher (4.2 cap hit)
D Patrick Wiercioch (7.5C prospect grade)

To Ottawa:
D prospect Jonathan Blum (8.0B)
Nashville's 1st round pick 2011
New Jersey's 2nd rd pick 2011 (belonging to Nashville; 31st overall)

Blum, Jared Cowen and David Rundbland all NHL-ready for 2011/12 with top 4 D potential. They join 20 year-old all star D man Karlsson to cement the back end. Ottawa gains 9 million in cap space for free agents. Nashville wins Stanley Cup with Sens top two leaders, including the husband of Nashville's Carrie Underwood.
I'd do this as a Sens fan. As much as I hope Alfie never get traded and retires into a front office job, I'm a big proponent of a re-build. I wouldn't mind seeing a couple of years of lottery picks, and for that matter, as many early round draft picks as possible. I'm not a fickle fan, and will continue to proudly support my losing team (hey, I'll feel like a Leafs fan for a couple of years).

Build through the draft like we did in the 90's.

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and how much of this salary would we be paying? You would have to take something away for us to be able to/want to complete this deal.
Give us Belak and/or Goc or whoever you want whose contract doesn't have more than 1 year remaining after this season.

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01-23-2011, 08:21 AM
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I'd do this as a Sens fan. As much as I hope Alfie never get traded and retires into a front office job, I'm a big proponent of a re-build. I wouldn't mind seeing a couple of years of lottery picks, and for that matter, as many early round draft picks as possible. I'm not a fickle fan, and will continue to proudly support my losing team (hey, I'll feel like a Leafs fan for a couple of years).

Build through the draft like we did in the 90's.



Give us Belak and/or Goc or whoever you want whose contract doesn't have more than 1 year remaining after this season.
If alfredson is traded it won't be to just free up cap space it will be to get a good return which this deal is not.

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01-23-2011, 10:16 AM
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If alfredson is traded it won't be to just free up cap space it will be to get a good return which this deal is not.
He's 37 and on a very obvious decline. Exactly what will he bring us next year? That question baffles me. At least Blum and draft picks means we're looking out for our future.

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01-23-2011, 10:18 AM
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Bad deal for the Sens

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01-23-2011, 10:21 AM
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Sens overpay significantly for marginal assets.

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XD so true.

Though you'll still have Gonchar helping the Sens backend.
Gonchar's defensively responsible style of play will obviously make up for rookie mistakes and solidify the new junior defense.

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01-23-2011, 11:06 AM
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this deal looks tempting, but i would never trade Alfie. and dont we have enough defensive prospects like Cowen, Rundblad, etc. we need offence, right? even though i like fisher, i would trade him over Alfie, so is there a way to trade Fisher, Wiercoch for an offensive prospect? if so then i would maybe pull the trigger

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01-23-2011, 11:32 AM
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Won't Alfreddsson retire with the Senators?

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01-23-2011, 11:51 AM
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Alfredsson may be declining, but on a team with normal offense, he'd still be a 70pt player that can kill penalites.

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01-23-2011, 12:07 PM
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Unless Ottawa takes cash back aint gonna happen.

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01-23-2011, 12:12 PM
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If Alfie is moved, it won't be to Nashville.

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01-23-2011, 12:40 PM
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Won't Alfreddsson retire with the Senators?
now very unlikely. First read:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...article1880105

The #1 thing for Alfie is *gasp* winning (talk to anybody who knows him). Since the Sens are starting the rebuilding process, for Alfie to stay here is to, in effect, lose his remaining years.

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01-23-2011, 12:45 PM
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this deal looks tempting, but i would never trade Alfie. and dont we have enough defensive prospects like Cowen, Rundblad, etc. we need offence, right? even though i like fisher, i would trade him over Alfie, so is there a way to trade Fisher, Wiercoch for an offensive prospect? if so then i would maybe pull the trigger
This deal is not good for ottawa to give up alfredson and fisher for a very little return.

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01-23-2011, 01:09 PM
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Joke?
We say no
We dont need Alfie, or Fisher. Enough with the Fisher proposals, we dont want him.

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01-23-2011, 02:44 PM
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on paper and fantasy land this deal has the right value. in reality, nashville can't take on the salary, and propbably wouldn't give 3 young assets for that package. poile is too conservative for that

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Joke?
We say no
We dont need Alfie, or Fisher. Enough with the Fisher proposals, we dont want him.
Could definitely use Alfie.

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01-23-2011, 03:32 PM
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Could definitely use Alfie.
Alfie, for a cup run maybe yes. But were not going to trade any parts like Blum, Josi, or Ellis for Alfie. Hes old and it wouldnt be worth it to give any of them up for a season of Alfie. We would give up those parts for a player like Spezza

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01-23-2011, 03:58 PM
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on paper and fantasy land this deal has the right value. in reality, nashville can't take on the salary, and propbably wouldn't give 3 young assets for that package. poile is too conservative for that
Agree....with both Sutter and Weber coming up fro big contracts....NAshville has plenty of cap space and more to sign them both..........question is with their internal cap ceiling(due to revenues)would they want those big salaries and trade away dmen prospects that they will need if they decide to move one of the big two(suter ,weber) in two years.

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He's 37 and on a very obvious decline. Exactly what will he bring us next year? That question baffles me. At least Blum and draft picks means we're looking out for our future.
This is what happens when you play with Chris Kelly. Honestly, I think the "decline" of Alfie is really, REALLY overrated. He's played with crap all year. What do you expect. $20 says [Insert Star not named Crosby, Stamkos] will not produce at the age of 37 if a Kelly like player is centering him. I have a hard time believing that you watch the Sens if you think it is "obvious"

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