I wonder what Callahan will have left in his tank after about 3-4 more years of playing his type of game ? I don't think I would go more than 3 on him...but I would do a cheapie long term on Boyle in a heartbeat !
Callahan isn't going anywhere. He deserves the same contract as Dubinsky. I don't consider AA or Boyle expendable, but I'd pick AA over Boyle. It'd be nice to see Sauer for a few more years, too.
I don't know about getting cheap on Boyle. He's tied for the team lead in goals now and he's been pretty much on the 3rd line all year. And a number of them-like tonight--have been big goals. Not to mention he's pretty much been getting minimum wage the last two seasons. Going to have to ante up something realistic and it may be in the $2 mil range.
with all these injuries I would love to be yelling at EC right now. The dude is frustrating as hell but he is talented, has some chemistry with Gabby and is deadlys on shootouts. Imainge EC, MZA, WW each time
I was all about moving EC but with all these injuries just keep him and deal him at the draft for a pick to save some cash on the cap
btw lets add Sauer to this of course. That guy is solid as hell. He's a top 4 in my mind.
I have weighed in on this in other threads but I would like to just add my .02 here.
I see Dubinsky as getting $4 mil plus. Probably around $4.25 per for four years. If we're lucky for five years. It will be important with him, as with Callahan, to purchase some UFA time and, as with all pro athletes, there is no reason for him to give his best years away. I think the Staal negotiation is the closest comparable, and Staal didn't have a break out year going into the negotiations.
Callahan is a concern in terms of durability as another poster mentioned, I see $3.75 or so for four years.
Anisimov and Boyle are both necessary for this team. They will do better than we think. Boyle especially. He is showing a lot this season and as Torts said in his interview last night, the Rangers now expect him to produce big goals (paraphrase). Boyle is the dark horse here and percentage raises don't enter into it. The organization will want to get him to a level where he's comfortable. He doesn't owe us anything and other teams may notice if we low-ball him or Anisimov in the form of offer sheets.
Think about it - if you're another GM and you see the Rangers offer Boyle 1.5 mil (and he rejects it), might you not take a chance and offer him $2mil to come play for you? The compensation would be a second round pick. Not so bad for them and NOT worth it for us.
I can't believe someone actually thinks boyle is more "vital" than anisimov...geez
Boyle is not only playing above his head but he's doing it offensively, defensively, physically and he's become one of the club's biggest leaders. It's been noticeable a few times he's one of the leaders on this team and he is by far the biggest surprise of this season i think on any team. Is he more vital than Artie? No but he's certainly closed what used to be a universe type of gap between himself and the others. So I don't blame him for saying that though it is a little too much.
I easily sign Boyle to a 2-4 year 1.5-2 M per type of deal. I'd even consider going to 2.5 depending how many UFA years you buy out (I don't think this will happen realistically if it does than it';s not a good contract even if Boyle plays great over the course of it). This of course is because I honestly think Boyle is at the very least the player we see this year. He can seriously grow a little more not that he needs to be in the top 6 but i think he may be able to crack it while playing PK and eventually maybe being a huge body inf ront on the PP too. A lot of room to grow but even if his growth stops here he's worth 2 M.
Artie can potentially be a 60-80 pt guy who plays real good D. Artie's potential here blows Boyle away.
Well if Boyle wants a decent pay raise, Ovechkin just scored a hat trick last night and overtook Boyle in goals. 19 to 17 in the goal count. Boyle will need to step up his game-SLACKER.
I can't believe someone actually thinks boyle is more "vital" than anisimov...geez
I'm not going to tell you Boyle is more valuable than Anisimov but here are some stats--and keep in mind Boyle is a 6'7" 'third line'--playing with other 3rd liners--monster with a physical side.
Boyle is tied for the team lead in goals with 17. He currently leads the team in shots on goal--128. He leads the team in hits-147--leads the forwards in blocked shots--52. He's tied for second on the team in +/- with a +10. His average time on ice is 15:28 compared to Anisimov's 15:44. His face off % 47.8 though not great is quite a bit better than Anisimov's 43.1 or Stepan's 37.7. Boyle is a mainstay on our pk unit as well. Anisimov, Stepan--less so. We'll finish by saying that he's scored a number of goals this season such as last night that have helped the Rangers pull rabbits out of hats and increase points in the standing. It's also within the realm of possibility that at only 26 years old and with his skating much improved he's doing what a lot of project power forwards have done in the past--at a later stage finding their game and just maybe he's even going to get better.
Should consider as well Boyle is just about the lowest paid player on the team and has been for the two years he's been here. He's an RFA this summer but if he continues to play like he is now or get better--he's very likely to get a big contract from someone when he's a UFA the next. Anisimov has several years left as an RFA. Easier to be harder on him--gives him more incentive to get better. Rangers have more control over his future anyway. He's earned a raise but not a big one. He hasn't established himself as a big scoring threat. Makes more sense to give Boyle more now than Anisimov.
Dubinsky and Callahan will get something in the $4M range. +/- $250,000. The Rangers took care of Staal and Girardi last summer and now it's the two forwards turn.
AA will get what Dubinsky got two years ago. 2 years/$3.7M. Martin Hanzal($1.8M). Steve Downie($1.85M). 2 year deal. Rangers give two year deals when the player finishes his ELC. Fedor Tyutin,Dan Girardi,Ryan Callahan and Brandon Dubinsky got two year deals. Marc Staal and Henrik Lundqvist were the two exceptions. AA has no arb rights.
Boyle won't look to break the bank but he won't sell himself short. Boyle is making $550,000 this season. He will triple that at the very least. Jay McClement has a $1.45M cap hit. Paul Gaustad is making $2.5M in his group III years(last 3 years and made $1.7M first season). Boyle has one group II year remaining. $2M range. 3 year deal. Boyle will take less money for the security of a 3 year deal.
Dubinsky,Callahan,AA and Boyle have a combined cap hit of $5,496,666 this season. It's going to cost close to $12M next season.
At some point next season, the Rangers are going to be in the market to make a 2-for-1 or 3-for-1, quantity for quality, type of trade. A young roster forward is going to have to be going in a deal like that. There are just too many complimentary forwards on the club, and eventually they're all going to want to get paid.
You can definitely rule out Callahan, Dubinsky. MZA, and Stepan. Prust doesn't really make sense in that kind of deal for the other team, either. That leaves Anisimov or Boyle. I'd be inclined to believe it would be the latter.
As usual Rangerboys synopsis makes a lot of sense.
I don't know if the Rangers are going to look to deal either Anisimov or Boyle next season but they should think very hard before they do either. A lot may depend on the Richards sweepstakes. If the Rangers don't get Richards or a similar player I don't see a good reason for them to deal any one of their top center guys--Stepan, Anisimov or Boyle. They represent being strong down the middle for the forseeable future.
Boyle is proving to be a good defensive player--it's not just the increased scoring. He's had good chemistry with Prust and Fedotenko the entire season. They compliment each other. Having a third line that can play physical, shut down other top lines and score goals isn't something to throw away as soon as some 'name' becomes available.
I highly doubt Drury will play next season. We might have some extra money then.
As much as I would like to believe this, what are you basing this on? He isnt the type of guy who is just going to retire. He isnt going to be traded because no body wants him. He isnt going to be bought out. So i dont know how everyone thinks hes gonna dissapear. Even though I want him too.
It is quite simple. If Sather signs Richards, the cap situation will get quite interesting, but re-signing everyone is do-able (yet tight) with a Drury buyout/retirement. If Richards doesn't come here, then there will be plenty of dough to go around for all the RFAs/UFAs.
As much as I would like to believe this, what are you basing this on? He isnt the type of guy who is just going to retire. He isnt going to be traded because no body wants him. He isnt going to be bought out. So i dont know how everyone thinks hes gonna dissapear. Even though I want him too.
The coaching staff is giving him a chance to play and he's not producing at all. When he shoots, it's almost never on net. He doesn't create plays. He floats. He's useless. Newbury is outplaying him. I would really not be surprised at all if he retires after this season.
The coaching staff is giving him a chance to play and he's not producing at all. When he shoots, it's almost never on net. He doesn't create plays. He floats. He's useless. Newbury is outplaying him. I would really not be surprised at all if he retires after this season.
Honestly I dont think he is given much of a chance, when someone gets injured he stays on the 4th line wing position. He doesnt even get PP time, and hes suposed too be a specialist in front of the net. Although he hasnt done much good, he hasnt gotten many chances this year.
Callahan isn't going anywhere. He deserves the same contract as Dubinsky. I don't consider AA or Boyle expendable, but I'd pick AA over Boyle. It'd be nice to see Sauer for a few more years, too.
He really doesn't. Dubinsky is much better. They both hit, they both hustle, they both play good D. Dubinsky is a much better offensive player, Dubinsky is much better with the puck on his stick, Dubinsky fights.
I like Callahan, but some people seem to like Callahan because everyone seems to really like Callahan. A team of Dubinskys would beat a team of Callahans everyday.
Callahan isn't going anywhere. He deserves the same contract as Dubinsky. I don't consider AA or Boyle expendable, but I'd pick AA over Boyle. It'd be nice to see Sauer for a few more years, too.
