2012 5th, conditional if Ryder and/or Stuart re-signs
Brian Lee has a little value, but I think he would be a good reclamation project for the Bruins, he is still young and Boston has a good defensive system, so there is a chance he could become something. At worst he is a 7th defenseman. Alfredsson would add a much needed veteran experience, as Recchi is the only veteran leader on the team. His cap hit isn't that high (4.85) for the next two years. Phillips would help solidify the back end, and while he isn't necessarily the PMD the Bruins need, he'd be a good fit.
The Sens get some cap relief with Ryder's expiring contract in place of Alfie's, and Ryder has been a good player this season contrary to popular belief. Paille is signed for one more year at just over a million bucks. He is a very good PKer and has some wheels, just needs to finish more. Hamill and Arniel are the little B's top scorers. Hamill has been playing very good for Providence this year and if given the chance could be a 2nd line center one day. Arniel is a gritty scorer. Stuart is a young stay at home guy who has been durable most of his career. The picks would help the rebuilding Sens.
for Colborne and Boston's 1st in 2011 dump if needed.
Someone in a post above seemed to indicate that Ryder -> Alfredsson was more or less a lateral move, which it clearly is not. Alfredsson was a ppg player last year and is the victim of a team and system that is hugely under performing. Is he a 100 point guy? Not anymore but he's still a very solid player.
Ottawa could use a top end forward prospect and of course another prospect in what should amount to a late first round pick.
Phillips has been hung out to dry a lot this year and as such has been gripping the stick a lot too tight. He helped Chara turn into the dominant dman that he is today and has the ability to be a mentor to another developing dman.
I'd personally like more for the pair but I think realistically this is a solid deal for both teams.
To recap, a top 6 forward, top 4 dman to Boston for Colborne who, unless Savard retires, Krejci is traded doesn't have much of a shot playing centre in Boston and a top 30 prospect in 2011.
I'm sorry but that is far more laughable than the original offer. Boston cannot afford to do that nor would it improve them. Whereas Ottawa gets Boston's top prospect and a future top prospect.
I love Alfredsson but I wouldn't trade for him now. He's a great player but he's not exactly what we're looking for.
I'd also prefer to see him retire as a Sen. He had a great career, is a great professional, and it's nice to see a team realize this and reward him. Please stay in Ottawa Alfie and I look forward to watching your retirement ceremony one day.
This. I want Alfie to stay in Ottawa, well into his post-playing career.
But since this is a proposal thread, how would Boston feel about something like :
I think the original deal could be greatly simplified. Does Boston really need/want Alfie? Phillips seems like a good fit. Outside of the picks and a slight interest in Hamill (whose been struggling and may benefit from a change of scenery), the others parts of the deal aren't too great for Ottawa. The Senators would probably trade off Ryder by the deadline if this trade were to occur...