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01-26-2011, 10:56 AM
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i remember vally playing well for the team, and then all of a sudden he seemed to decline

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Feel bad for Steve, really nice guy

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01-26-2011, 12:56 PM
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yeah he was. Until Biron came, he was our best back up in the last...well...since Healy??? Or did we like Cloutier better?

I'm just glad we have the best possible starting goalie.
That is such a sad quote (that Valliquette was the best backup since Healy) and quite damning too. Valliquette kicked around the minors for years before coming to the Ranger organization and was never good enough to rely on for more than a spot start or two sprinkled through the season. And when he finally hit the wall, the organization played yo-yo with a prospect coming out of college, before finally addressing the problem in the off-season. Can't say I was surprised through--this is also a brain trust that allowed a 19 year old to start 17 straight games after Richter got hurt.

It's sad it took Sather 10 years to realize that it's important to have more than one NHL caliber goaltender in the organization.

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01-26-2011, 01:12 PM
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That is such a sad quote (that Valliquette was the best backup since Healy) and quite damning too. Valliquette kicked around the minors for years before coming to the Ranger organization and was never good enough to rely on for more than a spot start or two sprinkled through the season. And when he finally hit the wall, the organization played yo-yo with a prospect coming out of college, before finally addressing the problem in the off-season. Can't say I was surprised through--this is also a brain trust that allowed a 19 year old to start 17 straight games after Richter got hurt.

It's sad it took Sather 10 years to realize that it's important to have more than one NHL caliber goaltender in the organization.
So? That wasn't the reason he got injured and probably wouldn't have hurt his development. It is not like the team was going anywhere that year.

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01-26-2011, 01:42 PM
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So? That wasn't the reason he got injured and probably wouldn't have hurt his development. It is not like the team was going anywhere that year.
So, it was OK to go with a prized prospect (probably the only one in the whole organization) and leave him out to dry for that stretch of games? And it was OK to start the season with only one goalie--who had a history of serious injuries by that point--in the whole organization with any solid NHL experience?

And let's not forget that Sather's mandate was to get the team back into the playoffs--that's what the expectation was in those days--that's why he had traded for players like Lindros and Bure. Sather came here claiming that with the money the Rangers had, he could buy a team that could contend (and signed players that summer like Holik--certainly someone who a team signs with expectations of making the playoffs). Richter played only 13 games that season before he was hurt--they hadn't fallen out of the playoff race at that point.

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That is such a sad quote (that Valliquette was the best backup since Healy) and quite damning too. Valliquette kicked around the minors for years before coming to the Ranger organization and was never good enough to rely on for more than a spot start or two sprinkled through the season. And when he finally hit the wall, the organization played yo-yo with a prospect coming out of college, before finally addressing the problem in the off-season. Can't say I was surprised through--this is also a brain trust that allowed a 19 year old to start 17 straight games after Richter got hurt.

It's sad it took Sather 10 years to realize that it's important to have more than one NHL caliber goaltender in the organization.
Sad...but true? Yeah.

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01-26-2011, 02:25 PM
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So, it was OK to go with a prized prospect (probably the only one in the whole organization) and leave him out to dry for that stretch of games? And it was OK to start the season with only one goalie--who had a history of serious injuries by that point--in the whole organization with any solid NHL experience?
How many NHL goaltenders do teams usually roll with? Blackburn won the job the year before when he backed up Richter. The tandem played well for the whole year. Why add another NHL goaltender to the mix? How would you even get a quality goalie to sign with 2 goalies clearly entrenched at their positions?

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And let's not forget that Sather's mandate was to get the team back into the playoffs--that's what the expectation was in those days--that's why he had traded for players like Lindros and Bure. Sather came here claiming that with the money the Rangers had, he could buy a team that could contend (and signed players that summer like Holik--certainly someone who a team signs with expectations of making the playoffs). Richter played only 13 games that season before he was hurt--they hadn't fallen out of the playoff race at that point.
If Richter was lost then the season was lost, so that point is somewhat moot. Even if we had the best veteran backup goaltender in the league, I am sure everyone in the organization knew that there was zero chance we would make the playoffs.

I think the key was to get Blackburn as much NHL experience as possible so he could take over for Richter as soon as possible. He tired out a bit but he handled himself well.

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01-26-2011, 02:37 PM
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sorry but vally was not a good backup. if you scored one goal against him, your next 4 shots were in. if he was good he'd still be in the nhl. a good teammate but imo, not a good backup

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How many NHL goaltenders do teams usually roll with? Blackburn won the job the year before when he backed up Richter. The tandem played well for the whole year. Why add another NHL goaltender to the mix? How would you even get a quality goalie to sign with 2 goalies clearly entrenched at their positions?



If Richter was lost then the season was lost, so that point is somewhat moot. Even if we had the best veteran backup goaltender in the league, I am sure everyone in the organization knew that there was zero chance we would make the playoffs.

I think the key was to get Blackburn as much NHL experience as possible so he could take over for Richter as soon as possible. He tired out a bit but he handled himself well.
The only problem was Blackburn wasn't ready to carry the load 15 games into his second season--and he certainly wasn't ready to take over the next year: the plan befor. Richter had ACL problems and concussion problems, he had only played in 55 games the year before. Every move Sather made in those days was not to "re-build", it was to make the playoffs. There was no other goalie in the organization who had played more than two games in the NHL. After Richter was kicked in the head and having headaches, he was forced to dress as the backup because Johan Holmqvist was hurt and there was no one else available. Yep, that was a great plan for a team capable of spending over $80 million in payroll.

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