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01-27-2011, 09:22 AM
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Jeffery Simpson

I generally agree with him.

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01-27-2011, 09:38 AM
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Non-hockey people don't pay enough attention to the draft. When desperately trying to re-patch a team through trade and FA when you have no drafted prospects you can expect to fail.

He isn't understanding the way salaries are handed out and how when no one is scoring everyone is not worth their contracts.

The great general managers don't sysmatically overpay players? That's because the great general managers have been given time to draft or have come into situations where drafting has been better than inept.

Good points on the communicator...whether Murray can do that I don't know but I do think most people cringe when they hear his voice now. Nor am I big proponent of him remaining as GM anyways....but I think people are too quick to dismiss the possibility that he would do just as well as anyone in a clear rebuild.


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The best part of this is how he says Bryan Murrya has no plan and is just owking on a patch work basis, so it has left us without an identity, no goalie, no speed, no toughness.

under Jacques Martin when we were building, we had a plan to draft fast, skilled forward team and big mobile Dman.

What is the plan now - explain Kovalev, Gonchar and Kuba to me...

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Non-hockey people don't pay enough attention to the draft. When desperately trying to re-patch a team through trade and FA when you have no drafted prospects you can expect to fail.
Dude, get off it. Bryan Murray's job is not only to draft - his primary job is to evalute the pro talent - Brian Lee, Kovalev, Kuba, Leclaire - Murray has completly over valuated the talent on the team.

lot's of GM's draft well, garth Snow might be the best drafter in recent memory..

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I think it's true about the identity thing. When Murray first took over he said he wanted a big, strong team that was a pain in the ass to play against and drafts JOB who is 6'2, trying to mimic Anaheim. Next year when Detroit wins, he says we need skilled puck movers, drafts Karlsson. Then he signs Kovalev and Gonchar and Kuba gets an extension, "we want to be a puck-possession team"....I thought you wanted a team that grinds it out, plays physical and gets dirty goals?

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01-27-2011, 09:57 AM
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Dude, get off it. Bryan Murray's job is not only to draft - his primary job is to evalute the pro talent - Brian Lee, Kovalev, Kuba, Leclaire - Murray has completly over valuated the talent on the team.

lot's of GM's draft well, garth Snow might be the best drafter in recent memory..
Nope, but it is the most effective and most important. Gotta draft well to get better and this team didn't go down the drain because of Murray...his damage control failed. Toronto tried to skip the drafting part and they pushed themselves back 2-4 years.

Kuba....was fine, has been injured for a lot of the last year. Much worse this year then he ever has been for us as a result.

Kovalev, the talent's been there, the desire has not. If Murray made that call then it's on him. But Kovalev was also a 2-year patch hole. What would you have liked to see us do instead? Not find another top 6 forward going into last year? Chris Neil was probably next on the RW depth chart...I wonder why?

I think Lee is actually better than Murray thought. Oddly enough.

Everyone loved the Leclaire trade, I didn't, but he is talented and his injuries were supposed to be behind him...not way in front. We had few other options....because that's what happens when the only NHL goalie you've drafted in the last 10 years goes crazy (Emery)

And the Islanders will be a strong team unless ownership and what not does not get in the way.

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I agree with what he said, however I would rather wait till the end of the season to hire a new GM as most of the best prospects for both GM and coach are presently with other teams.

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I think it's true about the identity thing. When Murray first took over he said he wanted a big, strong team that was a pain in the ass to play against and drafts JOB who is 6'2, trying to mimic Anaheim. Next year when Detroit wins, he says we need skilled puck movers, drafts Karlsson. Then he signs Kovalev and Gonchar and Kuba gets an extension, "we want to be a puck-possession team"....I thought you wanted a team that grinds it out, plays physical and gets dirty goals?
Yeah he definitely seems to be swayed by external factors instead of just making the Sens its own team. I remember when he re-signed Kuba, he said something along "well, I talked to a few GMs around the league, and they told me this is the kind of guy you want to re-sign, so we offered him a contract."

Here's a thought Bryan, you're a big boy, how about you make your own decisions from time to time.

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Kuba....was fine, has been injured for a lot of the last year. Much worse this year then he ever has been for us as a result.

Kovalev, the talent's been there, the desire has not. If Murray made that call then it's on him. But Kovalev was also a 2-year patch hole. What would you have liked to see us do instead? Not find another top 6 forward going into last year? Chris Neil was probably next on the RW depth chart...I wonder why?

I think Lee is actually better than Murray thought. Oddly enough.

Everyone loved the Leclaire trade, I didn't, but he is talented and his injuries were supposed to be behind him...not way in front. We had few other options....because that's what happens when the only NHL goalie you've drafted in the last 10 years goes crazy (Emery)
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So what has Murray done wrong in your eyes, if you can excuse all the bad he has done by "explainging" it away, just tell me what he has done worng besides the three coaches he's hired and the free agency and ticket sales falling and not finding a goalie and having 3 consecutive summers of distarctions and star players wanting out

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So what has Murray done wrong in your eyes, if you can excuse all the bad he has done by "explainging" it away, just tell me what he has done worng besides the three coaches he's hired and the free agency and ticket sales falling and not finding a goalie and having 3 consecutive summers of distarctions and star players wanting out
I don't know what offers he passed on in favour of the offers he took. I don't know which UFA signings he could have had over the ones that we're taken. Actually, I don't even know that each coach hiring was poor because good coaches get fired all the time as a result of bad teams (and I already explained my stance on why we became contender to non-contender). Although Hartsburg was a failed hire, interestingly, I think I recall a couple of our insiders hinting that Melnyk hired Hartsburg (but either way).

What I do know, or at least, think I know. Is that this team did not have much in terms of trading chips to get better now, nor was it an attractive UFA market - being Ottawa and not having any prospects. So when a team like that is forced to replace the likes of Chara, Redden, Emery, Havlat and eventually Heatley (who didn't like the coach, who began winning as soon as he showed up)....they are put in a position to fail. But this is Ottawa, and you don't just give up and rebuild here when the team is a year removed from contention...so you atleast give yourself a chance with a guy like Kovalev for 2 years so you can buy a couple years time to continue to draft for when the inevitable rebuild comes.

The one move I didn't really like was Gonchar. Our PP was stellar as soon as Karlsson emerged and I think despite being young...he's as born to QB a PP as anyone in the league. Just Gonchar look worse right now then he is just like everyone else on the team? Probably.

The draft is the most important tool and teams that draft well have options, much like the LA Kings at the moment. If they want to add an impact player by deadline day, they can because they've got a young future starter in Bernier and a wealth of prospects in Manchester/Junior/etc. We haven't had that since 2000 and we didn't have deep pockets back then.

I'm sure I could go back and nit pick at small tinker trades and useless signings. Rip him on bringing in Randy Robitaille or Jason Smith...but those moves aren't why we were bad or are bad...we're bad because we lost the players that made us good...and the only prime aged player we have left out has been out for a while and we have yet to beat an NHL team without him since.

Murray's tenure should be judged on the names he has drafted for the most part...most GMs would have been put into a position to fail coming to Ottawa...especially considering expectations were still high at a time where the team was slowly chipping apart...and then the big piece fell. Am I to blame Murray for Heatley wanting out? I have no idea, I doubt it.

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agree with about 20% of what he said. Strongly disagree with about 50%. Gotta go to class now, i'll post more complete thoughts tonight.

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Chris Neil : not worth 2 000 000 and his argument is because he has 2 goals so far this year
Brian Lee : not worth 875 000$ and his argument is?
Mike Fisher : not worth 4 200 000$, but does he realize he has been our best goal scorer in the last 2 seasons?

The guy better stay in politics


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So all the talk about this debate is still not enough? Let me try another way to explain it. We are bound to eventually get somehwere... or maybe not? lol

Let’s just look at the 2005-06 line-up for fun. It was arguably our best line-up ever and the PEAK of our current natural cycle (rise-maturity-decline)


Dany Heatley : The dude asked for a trade with egocentric reasons after signing a huge contract that made him attached to the Senators for several years. That demand went public (forcing the team’s hand) and Murray did trade him before the 4M$ bonus took effect. BUT, Heatley turned down the Edmonton deal, Melnyk lost his 4M$ and the Sens had only 1 option left : trade him to the Sharks (the place he wanted to go all the way) at about half his on-ice value. Huge downgrade in the goal scoring department

Daniel Alfredsson : Age factor, the guy that has been carrying this team on his shoulders forever(even when the team was good. i.e average team when Alfie was out of the line-up) has now declined. What could Murray have done about that?

Jason Spezza : His production is suffering from the departure of Heatley and the decline of Alfie. He is also not the healthiest guy on earth (injured every season) and is now concentrating on his defensive game way too much in an inefficient offensive system, where skilled players get outscored by the Chris Kellys of this world.

Peter Schaefer : The Redden of forwards, went on a massive decline in the 2006-07 season, so much that he was overpaid with a 2.3 contract. Murray offloaded that contract and got a cheap playoffs warrior in Donovan for a few years, heart on his sleeve with speed type of player. Great move

Wade Redden : Went from being arguably the best puck-mover in the world to an AHL players in a few years. Muckler re-signed him for 2 years (6.5 per) but at least Murray didn’t re-sign him. Great non-move

Bryan Smolinski : Was used in the Havlat trade by Muckler

Mike Fisher : Mike Fisher is still Mike Fisher; he just has much more pressure now. He was due for a big raise too after that SC run, bad timing to extend your players but that’s the situation we were in. Fisher scored 44 goals and 48 assists in 136 games (27 goals, 29 assists, 56 points pace over 82 games) in the 2 years before signing his extension, which are paid on UFA years only.

Zdeno Chara : Muckler let him go. Nothing Murray could have done about that

Andrej Meszaros : Stellar rookie season in 2005-06, but went on a steady decline in the 2 following years to become very bad in 2007-08. Meszaros and his agent wanted big money (on RFA years!) and Murray chose not to sign him at 4.0 per season. He instead traded him for Kuba (good until his injuries), Picard (serviceable and had potential) and a 1st round pick which turned into a cheap puck-mover, Chris Campoli. Great move. Signing Meszaros at that price would have been a disaster

Brian Pothier : Was let go as a UFA under Muckler regime

Antoine Vermette : Good speedy 2 way-player with great PK and face-off abilities. But long term, it was a decision between him and Fisher as they were approaching their UFA years (and were going to cost much money. Remember at that time, the Sens had the Pizza Line that was going to cost 19M$ on a 50M$ salary cap). Murray re-signed Vermette to a reasonable contract at first (2.75 per) but finally used that asset in with the clear intention of solving the forever achile’s heel of this club : goaltending. Leclaire has all the skill in the world to do that but unfortunately is injury-prone more than anyone else in the NHL. At least Murray obtained Columbus 2nd round pick on top of Leclaire, which was used to pick Robin Lehner, a 6’4 kid with great potential that could also cure our goaltending issues down the road. In hindsight, it is not a great move right now, but sacrificing Vermette was not the end of the world as well as were going to face cap issues when everyone was going to be on UFA years.

Chris Neil : Great bottom-6 player. Has decent speed and decent hands for a fighter/ tough guy. He is among the best NHL hitters every single year and doesn’t back down from anyone. On top of that, he can play a simple game where he doesn’t hurt you and score about 10 goals per season. He also bleed for this team, every signle game he wears his heart on his sleeve. People didn’t like the fact that he was signed at 2.0 per season, but the market indicates that is what is worth. Sorry to break some bubbles, but many clubs would have offered more to Neil if he reached the UFA market. And it is well documented

Chris Kelly : Kelly has been declared overpaid by the HF Sens board expertness, but oh god they have been proven wrong. Kelly is a PK specialist and defensive forward, but he is also consistently producing good numbers at ES (Even Strenght, means no PP time), around 15 goals/35 points per season, which is better than many players in the league that are paid much more than him. To me, he is almost a steal at 2.1 per season.

Patrick Eaves : Very promising rookie season but has stalled for some reason after that. Couldn’t produce enough with skilled players and top-6 ice-time, and was too oftenly injured, Murray used him as an asset in the Stillman-Corvo deal in attempt to salvage the 2007-08 season. Not a big loss, he is now a bottom-6 player in the NHL.

Vaclav Varada : He left the NHL after that season. Not a big loss anyway

Chris Phillips : The rock is still there. Murray didn’t have anything to do in that file. Muckler signed him to a good contract back then

Anton Volchenkov : Has been a good warrior for the team. We used him on his RFA years until the end and it was when he could test the UFA market and get over 4.25 for 6 years, which was too much money invested in a dimensional player for Murray liking. It sucks losing him but good decision for the cap going forward as Volchenkov is oftenly injured and his body is probably breaking down to all the suffering

Martin Havlat : Muckler traded him with Bryan Smolinski to the Chicago Blackhawks for Tom Preissing, Josh Hennessy, Michal Barinka and a 2nd round selection in 2008 to the Ottawa Senators. Outside of the good Preissing season, no need to explain than this trade has been a disaster. At least Murray drafted Patrick Wiercioch with that 2nd round pick (and not a Russian), which is the last little chance to get back some value in this trade.

Brandon Bochenski : Had some potential but never reached it. He isn’t even in the NHL anymore. He was used in the disastrous Arnason trade by Muckler.

Christoph Schubert : Not in the NHL anymore, was a serviceable player but easily replaceable

Brian McGrattan : Not in the NHL anymore. Murray still got a 5 round pick for him, lol. Murray had two 5th round picks in 2009 then, and drafted Mike Hoffman and Jeff Costello

Tyler Arnason : Not in the NHL anymore. Was acquired by Muckler in a not very successful trade... Was let go as a UFA after that season

Ray Emery : No need to re-explain all the story but success probably got into his head. His behaviour on and off the ice was not professional and it finally got the best of him. His hand injury and total ineffectiveness in the season after the Cup run forced the Sens to buy him out. Not in the NHL anymore...

Dominik Hasek : probably the best thing Muckler ever did for the Sens (it was only a 1 year contract though), but we all know what happened that season. Hasek got injured in the Olympics and the Sens were left with a rookie goalie going into the playoffs.



Brian Lee, Josh Henessy, Brian Elliott, Ilya Zubov, Nikulin, Peter Regin, Nick Foligno… were the type of assets Murray had to work with and replace all that talent that slipped out of Sens hands (which was not even Murray’s fault in almost every case)

Now please tell what isn’t a fact in all that, or just open your eyes and leave Murray alone for 5 minutes...


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Jeff is pretty much right on with everything he said. this team has no identity and they are doing a really poor job of communicating their plan to the fanbase. Melnyk and Murray contradict each other and they are generally not clear. the only thing Jeff was off on was that Brian Lee wasn't worth his contract, thats just retarded. I support Brian Lee.

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Chris Neil : not worth 2 000 000 and his argument is because he has 2 goals so far this year
Brian Lee : not worth 875 000$ and his argument is?
Mike Fisher : not worth 4 200 000$, but does he realize he has been our best goal scorer in the last 2 seasons?

The guy better stay in politics
Jeff Simpson is an extremely intelligent person who is also a passionate hockey fan.

I respect his opinion far more than any of the sports reporters in this (or any) town.

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Jeffrey Simpson is a pretty dumb guy. Everything he says is naive and childish. Like a freshman political science student.

Guess what Simpson, you don't get to choose the GM and they don't give a rat's ass about your season ticket. You can cry on the radio about a sport and business you don't understand but it only makes you a whiny baby.

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The identity thing is definitely bang on.

Jay Feaster was on the Team 1200 the other day and they asked him what exactly had gone wrong in Calgary. His answer: The Flames got away from their identity that got them to the cup final in 2004. A hard working, hard hitting, tough checking team that was a b*tch to play against. If you were going to play at the Saddledome, whether you left with the two points or not, you took a beating on that night.

Then they asked him how long did he figure he would be able to get his team there? He answered how tough the situation was because of all the NMC's and the exorbitant amount of salary that was already allocated for next year but he still set a time line of 3 years.

Let's contrast this to Bryan Murray. He throws out that this team will "rebuild" in a year only to correct himself a day later that he really meant to say we'll be competitive like the Islanders who compete every night. When asked how long it will take to fully right the ship, he answers a "few years".

This is a man without a plan and without a clue. Now I doubt Feaster will be able to turn around the mess in Calgary in 3 years but you can already tell the difference between a professional who's well organized and who can set goals and will do all he can to achieve them and a reactionary patchwork artist who makes things up as he goes along. Feaster is a man who inspires confidence who you're willing to follow. When I heard him I was 'sold'.

I can't say the same after hearing Murray's bumbling mess the other day.


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Jeffrey Simpson is a pretty dumb guy. Everything he says is naive and childish. Like a freshman political science student.

Guess what Simpson, you don't get to choose the GM and they don't give a rat's ass about your season ticket. You can cry on the radio about a sport and business you don't understand but it only makes you a whiny baby.
A simple question:

If the Season Ticket base dips to 7,500 or 8,000, would it be worth it to "give a rat's ass" then? Remember, the fanbase is quite fickle and Melnyk doesn't make money unless the team hits the second round.

Scoffing at income is never good idea.

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Jeffrey Simpson is a pretty dumb guy. Everything he says is naive and childish. Like a freshman political science student.

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You really think so?

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The identity thing is definitely bang on.

Jay Feaster was on the Team 1200 the other day and they asked him what exactly had gone wrong in Calgary. His answer: The Flames got away from their identity that got them to the cup final in 2004. A hard working, hard hitting, tough checking team that was a b*tch to play against. If you were going to play at the Saddledome, whether you left with the two points or not, you took a beating on that night.

Then they asked him how long did he figure he would be able to get his team there? He answered how tough the situation was because of all the NMC's and the exorbitant amount of salary that was already allocated for next year but he still set a time line of 3 years.

Let's contrast this to Bryan Murray. He throws out that this team will "rebuild" in a year only to correct himself a day later that he really meant to say we'll be competitive like the Islanders who compete every night. When asked how long it will take to fully right the ship, he answers a "few years".

This is a man without a plan and without a clue
. Now I doubt Feaster will be able to turn around the mess in Calgary in 3 years but you can already tell the difference between a professional who's well organized and who can set goals and will do all he can to achieve them and a reactionary patchwork artist who makes things up as he goes along. Feaster is a man who inspires confidence who you're willing to follow. When I heard him I was 'sold'.
He was talking about CONTENDING in a few years... And be COMPETITIVE as soon as next year, like trying hard to win every night.

it's so funny when you think of it. Random people on a message board are so good at getting into professionnal's head but can't even grasp nuances between words. The funniest thing is that they think they are smarter and would do better if given the opportunity.

The plan has been clear since day 1 : try to remain competitive (and the team was until this year outside of that Hartsburg stretch : look at the team's record before and after) but please, get a damn prospect pool

I can't help but laugh whenever I read this board


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He was talking about CONTENDING in a few years... And be COMPETITIVE as soon as next year, like trying hard to win every night.

I can't help but laugh whenever I read this board
Murray said competative like the ISLANDERS - the Islanders suck and this guy says we'll be like the Islanders next year, it's the worst quote ever to come out of the mouth of an Ottawa Senatros GM in the history of the franchise - he should be fired just for saying that.

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Counterproductive. Responding to fan pressure like Jeff Simpson is attempting to stir and advocating for is exactly what the team shouldn't do. The leafs, especially under Ferguson, were run more by a PR firm than they were a GM and that absolutely ruined them, Pogge over Rask for example.

The average fan doesn't understand the draft, for example that Brian Lee was a good pick at the time. The average fan doesn't understand the immediate history, for example that the Heatley and Emery debacles pooched us. The average fan doesn't understand the CBA and how it pooched us or how it creates cycles of highs and lows. The average fan doesn't understand the trade options, the salary structures, the potentials, the culture, the vision...

I'm not saying we don't need change. But we sure don't need to do it based on a democracy that strives for sexy headlines. We'd be the leafs all over again if Simpson got his way.

We have pieces, we just need to add prospects, production and perspective.

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He was talking about CONTENDING in a few years... And be COMPETITIVE as soon as next year, like trying hard to win every night.
'Being competitive' isn't a plan. That's like saying 'We want to win hockey games'. Gee thanks, Mister Murray sir, we're glad you want to be competitive in a professional hockey league, that clears up so much.

Does he want a focus on speed and a return to the lethal transition game that made the Senators such a feared opponent in the glory years? Maybe a focus on team defense and trading away players who give up after the first bad goal? A solid commitment to spiking the players' water bottles with Redbull?

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Counterproductive. Responding to fan pressure like Jeff Simpson is attempting to stir and advocating for is exactly what the team shouldn't do. The leafs, especially under Ferguson, were run more by a PR firm than they were a GM and that absolutely ruined them, Pogge over Rask for example.

The average fan doesn't understand the draft, for example that Brian Lee was a good pick at the time. The average fan doesn't understand the immediate history, for example that the Heatley and Emery debacles pooched us. The average fan doesn't understand the CBA and how it pooched us or how it creates cycles of highs and lows. The average fan doesn't understand the trade options, the salary structures, the potentials, the culture, the vision...

I'm not saying we don't need change. But we sure don't need to do it based on a democracy that strives for sexy headlines. We'd be the leafs all over again if Simpson got his way.

We have pieces, we just need to add prospects, production and perspective.
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Dude, get off it. Bryan Murray's job is not only to draft - his primary job is to evalute the pro talent - Brian Lee, Kovalev, Kuba, Leclaire - Murray has completly over valuated the talent on the team.

lot's of GM's draft well, garth Snow might be the best drafter in recent memory..
Drafting is a very big part of it and no i would not say alot of teams draft well some do sure but some don't.

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Murray said competative like the ISLANDERS - the Islanders suck and this guy says we'll be like the Islanders next year, it's the worst quote ever to come out of the mouth of an Ottawa Senatros GM in the history of the franchise - he should be fired just for saying that.
Whatever dude, if the Sens would be playing as hard as the Islanders they would have a much better season. Isles also have Streit and Okposo injured and traded Roloson (to tank?), so maybe they are better than their record... Almost every team has what it takes to be competitive with all this parity, but not every team compete as hard as some others to achieve it. Success in the NHL is a complex recipe of many ingredients and teams like the Devils and the Sens just don't have it this season. It's not like they couldn't have done better. The average fan doesn't really have a clue about this but that's the kind of thing Pat Burns (RIP) or Bob Hartley would have said/say on CKAC in the morning

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'Being competitive' isn't a plan. That's like saying 'We want to win hockey games'. Gee thanks, Mister Murray sir, we're glad you want to be competitive in a professional hockey league, that clears up so much.

Does he want a focus on speed and a return to the lethal transition game that made the Senators such a feared opponent in the glory years? Maybe a focus on team defense and trading away players who give up after the first bad goal? A solid commitment to spiking the players' water bottles with Redbull?
Well, he did state the obvious, but that's part of a GM's job. Realize that not everyone is a hardcore hockey fan and spend hours on message boards every week... Gosh, i live in Planet Hockey (Montreal) so I kinda know what I'm talking about. That's the same story here as well as probably everywhere. GMs sell hope every year, that's part of their job. But what Murray did there is not to get fans hopes too high but more realistic like " we will be young, exciting and compete hard every night but don't expect the team to contend for the Cup right away, playoffs should be the first goal"

For me, all this is so easy to see and what else could it be?

"No, we're gonna suck even harder next year to get the 1st overall pick"
" No, we're going to turn this around and win the Stanley Cup, don't worry"

We are on the phase of the natural cycle (decline) that they can't sell a "contending team" anymore. That's just how the business go...

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The plan can't be too clear as of today. It will be decided by the type of players we bring. Like, when you pick Erik Karlsson, you choose to rely on speed and skill. But a team is not made of 20 similar players. You need full of different types. Our style will be decided by the mix of players we will have. With the likes of Rundblad and Karlsson (and Wiercioch maybe), we already know a bit of what we will have, as well as with Cowen and maybe Gryba. For the forward group, it isn't as clear because we still have some picks to do (maybe some trades as well), but with Butler, Silfverberg, Hoffman, Sorensen, Petersson (they won't all pan out), you can already see a bit of speedy skilled players with soft hands and good shots. For the bottom 6 it is clear, players with size who can fight and score (Smith, Winchester, DD,...)

You guys worry way too much about something that should just be a hobby. Take it easy, breathe up and just wait for things to unfold

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