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01-28-2011, 12:25 PM
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Heh, it's TSN, it's almost like they are saying:

'We HOPE/WANT Toronto to do something so we don't have to talk about how much the Leafs suck all year.'

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01-28-2011, 12:26 PM
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suban, maxpac, 1st, 2011, eller, leafs will include caputi and hanson
MTL does not have what we need

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01-28-2011, 12:28 PM
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Has there been any talk of Toronto moving Giguere?

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01-28-2011, 12:30 PM
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Has there been any talk of Toronto moving Giguere?
yes actually there has

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01-28-2011, 12:31 PM
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Heh, it's TSN, it's almost like they are saying:

'We HOPE/WANT Toronto to do something so we don't have to talk about how much the Leafs suck all year.'
it's DD so it has a little more credibilty then that

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01-28-2011, 12:34 PM
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yes actually there has
say what they're looking for? Prospects, picks?

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"We've been trying to add since well before Christmas without any success," Leafs GM Brian Burke told ESPN.com this week. "We have cap room and budget room, but we haven't been able to get anything done to upgrade our team. So now we're going to look at whatever opportunities present themselves leading up to the deadline, including younger players."

I'm reading between the lines here, but my guess is the Leafs are now finally ready to accept draft picks or prospects in trades after trying so hard to make a more traditional hockey deal. Still, it's not a bad thing for Toronto to clear out some cap space ahead of July 1. They'll need to outbid the New York Rangers, among other teams, for the services of Brad Richards (if he hasn't re-signed with Dallas before then).

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01-28-2011, 12:34 PM
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With all do respect to Leafs fans, there is NO ONE on your current roster worth Subban and Pacioretty together, in fact, not even Kessel will get you those two players.

Pacioretty = Future power forward capable of scoring 40 goals if he works hard and plays his game.
Subban = Future offensive defenseman and Niedermeyer type player who can score 30 goals like Mike Green and be a PP quarterback.

Montreal will be built around Price, Pacioretty, Subban, Leblanc and Tinordi in the future!

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01-28-2011, 12:35 PM
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suban, maxpac, 1st, 2011, eller, leafs will include caputi and hanson
Theres no reason to make this trade happen..as a habs fan pov ==> Subban > Schenn and pacioretty eller 1st >>>> Kadri..he's not even playing in the leafs roster can u imagine ..and caputi and hanson are garbage.

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With all do respect to Leafs fans, there is NO ONE on your current roster worth Subban and Pacioretty together, in fact, not even Kessel will get you those two players.

Pacioretty = Future power forward capable of scoring 40 goals if he works hard and plays his game.
Subban = Future offensive defenseman and Niedermeyer type player who can score 30 goals like Mike Green and be a PP quarterback.


Montreal will be built around Price, Pacioretty, Subban, Leblanc and Tinordi in the future!
Really?

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01-28-2011, 12:41 PM
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say what they're looking for? Prospects, picks?
prospects and picks pretty much

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01-28-2011, 12:43 PM
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say what they're looking for? Prospects, picks?
Flyers can't handle his cap hit. At the deadline, he would still be a $1.2 million hit. To take him, they would need to dump about $6 million in salary.

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Jmart, could you see Wheeler in that LW spot on the first line?
Great thing about Kulemin is that he seems to be the spark for us. Wherever you put him, the line succeds (see Kulie-Boz-Kess last year. Kulie-Grabo-MacA this year). He's got size 6'+, ~210lbs +/-5 (dont know off the top of my head). He'd be great along side Riberio and Kessel.

Problem is, that'd make the Grabo-MacA line very small. Wheeler (6'5"..?) would be a nice addition. But if we slot him in there, we've got no place for Kadri for the foreseeable future. Even Mueller could be considered. And Guys like McKegg coming up the pipeline. Just not much of an upgrade over the stuff we already have.

I think we'll have to find a big winger that we can keep for next year (UFA in 2012). Give Kadri some more time to bulk up and then hit the NHL. Wheeler is more of a long term comitment than an older expiring contract.

Just my thoughts.

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01-28-2011, 12:46 PM
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Flyers can't handle his cap hit. At the deadline, he would still be a $1.2 million hit. To take him, they would need to dump about $6 million in salary.
They'd have to move about 2.5 mil to take on his contract

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With all do respect to Leafs fans, there is NO ONE on your current roster worth Subban and Pacioretty together, in fact, not even Kessel will get you those two players.

Pacioretty = Future power forward capable of scoring 40 goals if he works hard and plays his game.
Subban = Future offensive defenseman and Niedermeyer type player who can score 30 goals like Mike Green and be a PP quarterback.

Montreal will be built around Price, Pacioretty, Subban, Leblanc and Tinordi in the future!
Where did you heard that pacioretty will be a 40 goal scorer?...maximum 25 goals potential, not more.

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01-28-2011, 12:49 PM
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I feel so bad for Leafs fans, so bad...

Kessel = Overpaid and not consistent
Kadri = Most likely a first round bust
Versteeg = Marginal 2nd/3rd line player on a Stanley Cup team
Bozak = Over hyped NCAA player and not drafted for a reason a la Brunnstrom
Komisarek = Slow, one dimensional and off ice problems in Montreal and now Toronto
Beauchemin = Overpaid and only played well with Niedermeyer in Anaheim
Gustavsson = Over hyped goalie and might never be able to play like a solid number one in the NHL ever

Aside from that, no 1st round draft pick in 2010 and 2011

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With all do respect to Leafs fans, there is NO ONE on your current roster worth Subban and Pacioretty together, in fact, not even Kessel will get you those two players.

Pacioretty = Future power forward capable of scoring 40 goals if he works hard and plays his game.
Subban = Future offensive defenseman and Niedermeyer type player who can score 30 goals like Mike Green and be a PP quarterback.

Montreal will be built around Price, Pacioretty, Subban, Leblanc and Tinordi in the future!
is it not reasonable to assume toronto will be built around schenn and kadri???

i dont understand? you expect us to trade 2 of our building blocks to your team yet offer nothing in return of value? then when we suggest what we want you say no, those are building blocks, off limits.

at the end of the day its all moot. schenn is going no where, and i would be shocked if kadri is moved for anything short of a legit#1 center.

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They'd have to move about 2.5 mil to take on his contract
that could be why walker was waived he makes 1.7 so that would only leave about 800K left to clear

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I feel so bad for Leafs fans, so bad...

Kessel = Overpaid and not consistent
Kadri = Most likely a first round bust
Versteeg = Marginal 2nd/3rd line player on a Stanley Cup team
Bozak = Over hyped NCAA player and not drafted for a reason a la Brunnstrom
Komisarek = Slow, one dimensional and off ice problems in Montreal and now Toronto
Beauchemin = Overpaid and only played well with Niedermeyer in Anaheim
Gustavsson = Over hyped goalie and might never be able to play like a solid number one in the NHL ever

Aside from that, no 1st round draft pick in 2010 and 2011
I think it's pretty clear your trolling now.

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01-28-2011, 12:54 PM
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I feel so bad for Leafs fans, so bad...

Kessel = Overpaid and not consistent
Kadri = Most likely a first round bust
Versteeg = Marginal 2nd/3rd line player on a Stanley Cup team
Bozak = Over hyped NCAA player and not drafted for a reason a la Brunnstrom
Komisarek = Slow, one dimensional and off ice problems in Montreal and now Toronto
Beauchemin = Overpaid and only played well with Niedermeyer in Anaheim
Gustavsson = Over hyped goalie and might never be able to play like a solid number one in the NHL ever

Aside from that, no 1st round draft pick in 2010 and 2011
how is Kadri most likely a first round bust he has produced everywhere he has been he dominated Junior, he is playing VERY well at the NHL level and didn't look out of place when we had to call him up either.

you have no edvidence to backup Kadri being a bust at 20

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that could be why walker was waived he makes 1.7 so that would only leave about 800K left to clear
I'm going by full years salary. After waiving Walker they are 3.6 under. That's where I got the 2.4 from.

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I feel so bad for Leafs fans, so bad...

Kessel = Overpaid and not consistent
Kadri = Most likely a first round bust
Versteeg = Marginal 2nd/3rd line player on a Stanley Cup team
Bozak = Over hyped NCAA player and not drafted for a reason a la Brunnstrom
Komisarek = Slow, one dimensional and off ice problems in Montreal and now Toronto
Beauchemin = Overpaid and only played well with Niedermeyer in Anaheim
Gustavsson = Over hyped goalie and might never be able to play like a solid number one in the NHL ever

Aside from that, no 1st round draft pick in 2010 and 2011

Umm what? It's very clear you don't watch much.

-Kessel plays with Joey Crabb on his wing. Consistency conversations should start when he's playing with NHLers

-Kadri, "most likely" a 1st round bust? On what basis that he's not in the NHL? I guess Louis Leblanc is too eh?

-Bozak is a great defensive centreman. Skilled at faceoffs and works his ass off on the backcheck.

-Komi has been pretty rough on the ice in TO. He's improved immensly in the last month. Has actually been playing very well. And to say that he has "off-ice issues" because of a reported assault? That's being furiously denied? He's one of the best off the ice community reps the leafs have.

-Beauch is defiently not overpaid. Overplayed yes. Not overpaid. He's a solid 2nd pairing guy. But Wilson needs to stop playing him 26+mins a game. He consistently plays a solid 20-22mins per game.

-Gustavsson was a no risk UFA that we signed to a cheap deal. He's got the tools to be a good goalie in the NHL. The mental factor (as with most goalies) is what it's going to come down to. Only time will tell.

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how is Kadri most likely a first round bust he has produced everywhere he has been he dominated Junior, he is playing VERY well at the NHL level and didn't look out of place when we had to call him up either.

you have no edvidence to backup Kadri being a bust at 20
Only time will tell...

In that draft I was surprised that Burke took Kadri who is NOT physical at all, he should of looked at Kassian or even Paajarvi-Svensson and Ryan Ellis.

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It really is hell being a Leaf fan.
Try being a Sabres fan when your team doesn't make ANY moves...

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Was listening to him talk and he said that he belives that Burke and company have some big moves in store he said that Brian Burke will do WHATEVER it takes to make the Leafs a playoff team/contender next year. He said we are in the Market for a top line C as top line LW and a legit #1 goalie according to Dreger we have the assets to get this done.

so Leaf fans if we are to take Dreger at his word and he is one of most connected guys in the business do you expect Kadri and/or our 2012 1st to be on the block? I think it's a damn good possibilty.
I'd be shocked to see Burke make any moves leading up to the deadline that involved those players.

A.) Why? The teams is in the basement, and unless it's getting a Kessel like player (meaning early 20s, and established in the league).

B.) As a follow up to A, which teams are in a position to deal top line talent on the verge of the deadline? Not to mention ones that fit the blueprint.

We know what Burke wants, but at this point in the season it's unlikely to even consider adding such players unless they can be had for cheap (i.e. taking a bloated contract for scraps). Doesn't make much sense considering the state of the team. Now in the summer..it may be a different story.

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