HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk
Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk Trade rumors, transactions, and free agent talk. Rumors must contain the word RUMOR in post title. Proposals must contain the word PROPOSAL in post title.

Shea Weber to the Maple Leafs

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
01-31-2011, 07:16 PM
  #26
Canuck and Bills Fan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 205
vCash: 500
"The Parise deal probably makes the most sense for both teams"

The only reason NJ deals Parise is done is due to cap space and bringing in Weber does nothing to ease that problem.

Canuck and Bills Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 07:29 PM
  #27
Crede777
Deputized
 
Crede777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Country: United States
Posts: 7,205
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canuck and Bills Fan View Post
"The Parise deal probably makes the most sense for both teams"

The only reason NJ deals Parise is done is due to cap space and bringing in Weber does nothing to ease that problem.
Yeah, the New Jersey proposals don't make much sense. If they move Parise it's because of the cap. Weber, being a huge cap hit, doesn't alleviate the problem. Not to mention, the Devils are in line to draft a top defensive prospect this year.

Crede777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 08:26 PM
  #28
Meatwagon
Blues=Overrated
 
Meatwagon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Welcome Home, Paul
Country: United States
Posts: 1,188
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by RogerRoeper View Post
Weber is overrated. If he was seen nightly in Toronto his flaws would be exposed. The Leafs have enough money tied-up in the blueline. Time to concentrate on spending $ upfront.
I agree with you here. Weber has a cannon for a shot and well everything else in his game is average. Missing Suter for those 20 or so games really exposed his weaknesses. Don't get me wrong I would give my right foot to get him on my team but honestly I'd rather have Suter.

Fire away Nashville fans

Meatwagon is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 08:42 PM
  #29
glenngineer
Registered User
 
glenngineer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Spring Hill, TN
Country: United States
Posts: 3,939
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meatwagon View Post
I agree with you here. Weber has a cannon for a shot and well everything else in his game is average. Missing Suter for those 20 or so games really exposed his weaknesses. Don't get me wrong I would give my right foot to get him on my team but honestly I'd rather have Suter.

Fire away Nashville fans
Nothing to fire away at. Suter is the better all around player of the two. Weber has an exceptional shot, can lay big hits but Suter's skills are all in the 8 or 9 range, much like a guy named Lidstrom. Suter isn't flashy but he is one of the best defenders in the league.

glenngineer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 08:58 PM
  #30
birddog*
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 5,988
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by 8BostonRocker24 View Post
No. Kessel ended up in Toronto because Nashville was unwilling to give him the money he was demanding. Nashville was offering 5 years @ $4.0 million a year, Kessel had Burke in his back pocket so he knew he was making $5.4 million if it was with Toronto, Nashville or Boston.


That's what held up that deal.
Is this like you pretending you actually know something you don't have one ounce of proof about.

birddog* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 09:01 PM
  #31
Carlton Orr*
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,169
vCash: 500
Atleast Kadri, Schenn and two 1sts.

Carlton Orr* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 09:10 PM
  #32
I Will Son
An Army of One
 
I Will Son's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Nashville
Country: United States
Posts: 7,962
vCash: 500
Were not trading Weber for pieces. We need a top 3 forward in return like glennigneer said.....O and Kessel wont work

I Will Son is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 09:16 PM
  #33
Chuck Lefley*
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 152
vCash: 500
Wow, I thought this thread was a complete joke. Then I see comments like Weber being overrated. Weber overrated?? Do the initials DP sound familiar? There is not a GM in the NHL who would take Phaneuf over Weber. Unbelievable. I lived in Nashville for 3 years and saw him play live around 12 times. Shea Weber,measured in his relative worth to the Preds, is one of the most untouchable players in the league. It is laughable that Kessel and Weber are mentioned in the same breath. A true captain and team player versus a sullen, me-first player. This is the same Shea Weber who put a puck THROUGH the net during the Olympics, remember? This is the same Shea Weber who was the third Dman chosen during the All Star team selections (after Keith and Chara). Kessel?? Well, we all know what his peers think of him

Chuck Lefley* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 09:17 PM
  #34
8BostonRocker24
Registered User
 
8BostonRocker24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Los Gatos via Boston
Country: China
Posts: 9,213
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by birddog View Post
Is this like you pretending you actually know something you don't have one ounce of proof about.
ummmmm... it was pretty well covered in Boston. Feel free to go back two years on The Boston Board, there is an entire thread on this subject, and was covered everyday by local media.


It was a freaking soap opera.

8BostonRocker24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 10:00 PM
  #35
unifiedtheory
Registered User
 
unifiedtheory's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Burnaby, B.C.
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,145
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by birddog View Post
Is this like you pretending you actually know something you don't have one ounce of proof about.
Yah, as Bruin fans we only lived and breathed the soap opera for months, none of us know anything.

unifiedtheory is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 10:25 PM
  #36
JimEIV
Registered User
 
JimEIV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 24,724
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canuck and Bills Fan View Post
"The Parise deal probably makes the most sense for both teams"

The only reason NJ deals Parise is done is due to cap space and bringing in Weber does nothing to ease that problem.
Actually, no.

The ONLY reason New Jersey trades Parise is because he doesn't want to be there. Money will not be a problem as the devils will have 11 million in space next season not factoring any cap increase any they have even more available space two years from now.

If Parise wanted out, I personally believe that a Weber type of deal would be exactly what Lou would looking for.

JimEIV is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 10:28 PM
  #37
RogerRoeper*
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 21,694
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck Lefley View Post
Wow, I thought this thread was a complete joke. Then I see comments like Weber being overrated. Weber overrated?? Do the initials DP sound familiar? There is not a GM in the NHL who would take Phaneuf over Weber. Unbelievable. I lived in Nashville for 3 years and saw him play live around 12 times. Shea Weber,measured in his relative worth to the Preds, is one of the most untouchable players in the league. It is laughable that Kessel and Weber are mentioned in the same breath. A true captain and team player versus a sullen, me-first player. This is the same Shea Weber who put a puck THROUGH the net during the Olympics, remember? This is the same Shea Weber who was the third Dman chosen during the All Star team selections (after Keith and Chara). Kessel?? Well, we all know what his peers think of him
Why are you bringing Dion into this? Weber IS overrated.

RogerRoeper* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 10:29 PM
  #38
RogerRoeper*
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 21,694
vCash: 500
Shea Weber=Jay Boumesster. Guy is called a stud franchise d-man until he's seen nightly in another market for what he is.

The Devils would be crazy to give up Parise for Weber.

RogerRoeper* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 10:30 PM
  #39
Finlandia WOAT
Do U Like Quebec?
 
Finlandia WOAT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Raleigh NC
Country: United States
Posts: 9,201
vCash: 500
Lidstrom
Pronger
Keith
Weber
Chara

Top 5 seems about right. Especially since 3 of those are getting long in the tooth, and the other one seems to have fallen flat this season.

Boumeester was always "potential". You could see blatantly that he could be a stud dman.

Weber IS a stud dman. I don't see the comparison.

EDIT: Also, why do all leafs trade proposals end like this?

Leafs Fan- "Hey, give us your star player!! We have some decent prospects and solid but overpaid players!!"

Other Fan- "Yea, no. We like our star player."

Leafs Fan- "Why? He sucks!!!"

Why try to prove that the player you initially wanted is terrible? You're not getting him regardless...

Finlandia WOAT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 10:30 PM
  #40
LeafsFan2342
#CallupColborne
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,100
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by BBSeabs27 View Post
Preds will never give up Weber if he keeps playing this well.
Preds wont give up Weber, but will Weber give up the Preds

LeafsFan2342 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 10:32 PM
  #41
RogerRoeper*
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 21,694
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doctor Goon View Post
Atleast Kadri, Schenn and two 1sts.



No team in the league is giving up that type of package for Weber.

RogerRoeper* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 10:36 PM
  #42
Carlton Orr*
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,169
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by RogerRoeper View Post



No team in the league is giving up that type of package for Weber.
Well Burke gave up two 1sts and a 2nd for a soft one way 35 goal scorer. No telling what he would give up for Weber.

Carlton Orr* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 10:37 PM
  #43
RogerRoeper*
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 21,694
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doctor Goon View Post
Well Burke gave up two 1sts and a 2nd for a soft one way 35 goal scorer. No telling what he would give up for Weber.
So I guess that means he'll give up 10 first rounders for Weber!

RogerRoeper* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 10:38 PM
  #44
Carlton Orr*
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,169
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by RogerRoeper View Post
So I guess that means he'll give up 10 first rounders for Weber!
Knowing Burke and his ego, who knows.

Carlton Orr* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 10:41 PM
  #45
umwoz
Registered User
 
umwoz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,196
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeafsFan2342 View Post
Preds wont give up Weber, but will Weber give up the Preds
If I'm not mistaken, Weber will still be an RFA at the end of his current contract. The ball is certainly in the Pred's court on this front. They either take a Kings ransom for him or sign him.

umwoz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 10:42 PM
  #46
I Will Son
An Army of One
 
I Will Son's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Nashville
Country: United States
Posts: 7,962
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeafsFan2342 View Post
Preds wont give up Weber, but will Weber give up the Preds
I would of guessed you were a Vancouver fan at first. But Toronto was my 2nd choice. And no he wont

I Will Son is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 10:42 PM
  #47
8BostonRocker24
Registered User
 
8BostonRocker24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Los Gatos via Boston
Country: China
Posts: 9,213
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by RogerRoeper View Post
Shea Weber=Jay Boumesster. Guy is called a stud franchise d-man until he's seen nightly in another market for what he is.

The Devils would be crazy to give up Parise for Weber.
Hard to say he wasn't Team Canada's best defenseman this past Olympics.


Him and Doughty really impressed me at both ends of the ice.

8BostonRocker24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 10:53 PM
  #48
RogerRoeper*
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 21,694
vCash: 500
If The Preds can't re-sign Weber they'll be in a piss pooor position and may not get full value for him.

RogerRoeper* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 11:05 PM
  #49
MattPreds37
Registered User
 
MattPreds37's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Goodlettsville TN
Country: United States
Posts: 262
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by RogerRoeper View Post
If The Preds can't re-sign Weber they'll be in a piss pooor position and may not get full value for him.
The way some people are talking, you would think Preds were in rough shape, however, we are 4th in the Western Conference. We have played the fewest home games of any team and have the most home games remaining. Clearly We are falling apart.

MattPreds37 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-31-2011, 11:27 PM
  #50
8BostonRocker24
Registered User
 
8BostonRocker24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Los Gatos via Boston
Country: China
Posts: 9,213
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by RogerRoeper View Post
If The Preds can't re-sign Weber they'll be in a piss pooor position and may not get full value for him.
I love this theory.


Good GMs get full value for any assets traded. Players, picks, prospects...

8BostonRocker24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:49 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.