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02-03-2011, 12:35 PM
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I'd love to get him back. He is way better than Leighton and as long as he's healthy I think he's better than Boosh. Get him in the AHL and see what he can do.

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02-03-2011, 12:36 PM
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So if we sign him, won't he have to go through waivers like the Nabokov ordeal?
No, he hasn't played in another non North American League after the start of regular season, like Nabokov did.

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02-03-2011, 12:37 PM
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So if we sign him, won't he have to go through waivers like the Nabokov ordeal?
A player only goes on waivers when he started professional play that season in a different league. This applied for Nabokov, but won't for Emery.

Don't quote me on that though.

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02-03-2011, 12:38 PM
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No, he hasn't played in another non North American League after the start of regular season, like Nabokov did.
Oh ok thanks, good to know.

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02-03-2011, 12:39 PM
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A player only goes on waivers when he started professional play that season in a different league. This applied for Nabokov, but won't for Emery.

Don't quote me on that though.
You're right. Forsberg is in the same boat. You only have to clear waivers if you play in Europe after the NHL regular season begins.

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02-03-2011, 12:40 PM
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Only the Flyers would be looking into a goalie with a bum hip who hasn't played in a year to backstop them to a championship.

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02-03-2011, 12:43 PM
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02-03-2011, 12:45 PM
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I just don't know how Emery could be a #1 NHL goalie again after that hip injury, but if hes healthy, and close to his old self I'd certainly want him back.

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02-03-2011, 12:46 PM
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Briere doesn't cut it? I would've thought the midget ghost had massive amounts of street cred.

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02-03-2011, 12:51 PM
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02-03-2011, 12:53 PM
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Did the Flyers pay the bills for all the medical procedures done because of his condition? If so, it'd be nice if he signed for dirty cheap (to the AHL or NHL) to thank the Flyers for their concern and support.

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02-03-2011, 01:02 PM
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Did the Flyers pay the bills for all the medical procedures done because of his condition? If so, it'd be nice if he signed for dirty cheap (to the AHL or NHL) to thank the Flyers for their concern and support.
That's a great question. It would have been insurance, but ...
He was under contract with the Flyers when treatment started. At the same time, being a degenerative condition, the Flyers' insurance carrier could have tried to weasel out of it (maybe?). I'd guess the Flyers insurance premiums went up this season thanks in part to paying for Emery's hip.

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02-03-2011, 01:04 PM
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Did the Flyers pay the bills for all the medical procedures done because of his condition? If so, it'd be nice if he signed for dirty cheap (to the AHL or NHL) to thank the Flyers for their concern and support.
i'm sure insurance covered his medical stuff.

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02-03-2011, 01:07 PM
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I'd love to get him back. He is way better than Leighton and as long as he's healthy I think he's better than Boosh. Get him in the AHL and see what he can do.
Hell, if he's 100% healthy he's better than Leighton, Boucher, OR Bobrovsky. But that's a hell of a big "if".

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02-03-2011, 01:27 PM
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i'm sure insurance covered his medical stuff.
But do the Flyers provide that insurance or is he paying out of pocket? As Murph said, he's under contract when he had it. Guess it depends on the terms of the contract.

Cause to insure a hockey player can't be cheap, and he wasn't playing, so he wasn't making any money. I honestly am leaning toward that the Flyers covered him. Although from the Flyers stand point, that's the right and ethical thing to do.

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02-03-2011, 01:32 PM
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But do the Flyers provide that insurance or is he paying out of pocket? As Murph said, he's under contract when he had it. Guess it depends on the terms of the contract.

Cause to insure a hockey player can't be cheap, and he wasn't playing, so he wasn't making any money. I honestly am leaning toward that the Flyers covered him. Although from the Flyers stand point, that's the right and ethical thing to do.
I mean, I'm not sure how insurance for NHL players works. I wouldn't be shocked if it's a pooled system under the entire NHL... or team specific... either way, in the grand scheme of things, it isn't that big a deal as it's an already sunken cost. It isn't like the Flyers were dealing with non-insured surgery and the like.

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We all remember how our goalies got hurt last year, wouldn't be bad option to have in the AHL as I do not want to see Leighton agin.

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02-03-2011, 01:46 PM
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I mean, I'm not sure how insurance for NHL players works. I wouldn't be shocked if it's a pooled system under the entire NHL... or team specific... either way, in the grand scheme of things, it isn't that big a deal as it's an already sunken cost. It isn't like the Flyers were dealing with non-insured surgery and the like.
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02-03-2011, 01:50 PM
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I'd love to get him back. He is way better than Leighton and as long as he's healthy I think he's better than Boosh. Get him in the AHL and see what he can do.
Agreed that he is better than Leighton. I don't know that I agree that he is better than this season's Boucher. When all is said and done, Emery is more likely to pull a Michael Leighton in the Stanley Cup Finals (See Sens vs. Ducks - Emery let some blue line shots in that just made me cringe when I heard we signed him the first time).

Everyone on here can give Boucher the short end of the stick but same thing happened to Tim Thomas - (I know Boucher is not as good as Timmy boy this year by any means) but point is, if he's playing well for you and winning you games, keep him around on that basis not on the intangible stuff like projected skillset, i.e. Tukka (who I am sure will steal the #1 spot back from a veteran, bruised up Thomas one day...ONE DAY). Emery is no good for our team, he was Biron 2.0 just as Biron was Esche 2.0. Progressively better than the inconsistent goal tender before them but not good enough to get you out of game 7 with the big prize.

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02-03-2011, 01:52 PM
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Can Emery sign a two-way deal?

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I mean, I'm not sure how insurance for NHL players works. I wouldn't be shocked if it's a pooled system under the entire NHL... or team specific... either way, in the grand scheme of things, it isn't that big a deal as it's an already sunken cost. It isn't like the Flyers were dealing with non-insured surgery and the like.
I know, but figure how much does hip surgery cost out of pocket when your insurance covers it? Plus nearly a year of rehab, maybe 5 days a week. I can't imagine it's cheap.

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Can Emery sign a two-way deal?
Sure, but it doesn't help with anything but money, which isn't a problem at all.

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I know, but figure how much does hip surgery cost out of pocket when your insurance covers it? Plus nearly a year of rehab, maybe 5 days a week. I can't imagine it's cheap.
I would wager the health insurance the NHL puts down for removes all out of pocket expenses... they would get nickel and dimed to death given all the medical stuff through the year. You're right that their insurance payments are probably expensive, but I'm not sure the Flyers particularly care... or that it would be specific to the Flyers to the point that Ray Emery could conceivably be in a position where he owed 'em anything.

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02-03-2011, 03:34 PM
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I understand that people have concerns about his hip, but don't write him off so easily, professional athletes are freaks of nature when it comes to healing, especially when you can concentrate 100% on that healing. It's not like these guys work a soul crushing 9-5, then do PT once a week with a random doctor/trainer. Their sole job is to work 9-5 on recovering with doctors who are considered the best in the business...

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