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02-04-2011, 01:54 PM
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Jackets - Canadiens

Montreal ----> Huselius - Methot RFA ( 25 years old )
Columbus---> Spacek - Kostitsyn RFA ( 25 years old )

next year
Huselius 1 year CAP 4.75 <---> Spacek 1 year CAP 3.83

......................GP - G - A - PTS - +/-
Huselius..........28 - 9 - 6 - 15 - 15
A.K.................51 - 13 - 16 - 29 + 12

Methot............45 - 0 - 15 - 15 - + 7
Spacek............50 - 1 - 14 - 15 - + 8


you made this trade or not ?

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02-04-2011, 02:01 PM
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I guess I would do it as Methot is a solid shutdown type with size which is what is needed...but Huselius is a wash with AK.

I'd do it to be rid of Spacek

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As an outsider this seems to be pretty fair.

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Doesn't Columbus really like Methot? I don't see them doing this.

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I guess I would do it as Methot is a solid shutdown type with size which is what is needed...but Huselius is a wash with AK.

I'd do it to be rid of Spacek
SAME REASON FOR ME


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Methinks Methot might be the player that all the teams want most in this... which will probably ultimately make Habs fans say yea, and Jackets fans say nay.


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Montreal ----> Huselius - Methot RFA ( 25 years old )
Columbus---> Spacek - Kostitsyn RFA ( 25 years old )

next year
Huselius 1 year CAP 4.75 <---> Spacek 1 year CAP 3.83

......................GP - G - A - PTS - +/-
Huselius..........28 - 9 - 6 - 15 - 15
A.K.................51 - 13 - 16 - 29 + 12

Methot............45 - 0 - 15 - 15 - + 7
Spacek............50 - 1 - 14 - 15 - + 8


you made this trade or not ?
The Habs could get Methot, but it will take more than this. Additionally, Columbus is not looking for Wingers, so no to Andrei.



To Montreal: Methot, Huselius

To Columbus: Plekanic, Spacek

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I guess I would do it as Methot is a solid shutdown type with size which is what is needed...but Huselius is a wash with AK.

I'd do it to be rid of Spacek
I third this motion

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The Habs could get Methot, but it will take more than this. Additionally, Columbus is not looking for Wingers, so no to Andrei.



To Montreal: Methot, Huselius

To Columbus: Plekanic, Spacek
Montreal would be stupid to do that.

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Methinks Methot might be the player that all the teams want most in this... which will probably ultimately make Habs fans say yea, and Jackets fans say nay. :dunno;
must not be overlooked that Kostitsyn
could seem very wrong .... Gauthier

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I third this motion
Spacek has 2.25 of CAP no problem
not 3.83

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As amused as I am by the idea of having a Kostitsyn versus Kostitsyn "brother versus brother" Civil War theme for the next Nashville game... not a chance in hell. That's a significant downgrade on our wing (Kostitsyn is regularly in the 35-45 point range; Huselius is regularly 55-65, this year notwithstanding) and very little gain on the back end unless Spacek, once he gets here, somehow magically remembers how he was playing before he signed that Habs contract.

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Yeah, this sounds good to me Methot is a nice young shutdown guy, we lose Spacek's contract. Only thing I don't like is the physical edge AKost can bring to our Top 6, but Patches is bringing a lot of that right now.




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The Habs could get Methot, but it will take more than this. Additionally, Columbus is not looking for Wingers, so no to Andrei.



To Montreal: Methot, Huselius

To Columbus: Plekanic, Spacek
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The Habs could get Methot, but it will take more than this. Additionally, Columbus is not looking for Wingers, so no to Andrei.



To Montreal: Methot, Huselius

To Columbus: Plekanic, Spacek

Really? You think that offer is worth Plekanec?

To be fair he is our MVP (outside of Price) and plays every situation. His 5M cap hit is very much worth what he brings. I'm sorry but to get him you'd really need to add. It isn't all about the points you find on HockeyDB

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Nope. Dont want Spacek.

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As amused as I am by the idea of having a Kostitsyn versus Kostitsyn "brother versus brother" Civil War theme for the next Nashville game... not a chance in hell. That's a significant downgrade on our wing (Kostitsyn is regularly in the 35-45 point range; Huselius is regularly 55-65, this year notwithstanding) and very little gain on the back end unless Spacek, once he gets here, somehow magically remembers how he was playing before he signed that Habs contract.
I guess I'd be surprised if AK was a downgrade on Huselius at this point in their careers. But who knows. I'd be tempted to turn it down on this basis alone, because Huselius at his higher price and cotton-y-content would worry me vs. the more physical presence that AK brings. Just that the Methot >> Spacek angle tempts me a bit more. If you tell me it will cost $3M to re-sign Methot, however, I may backpedal and say no thanks on this one all the same.

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Nope. Dont want Spacek.
can't say I blame you!!!



Personally I feel that Umberger is exactly what Montreal is in need of for the top 6. If a 1st is what it would take use it and add a mid level prospect

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Really? You think that offer is worth Plekanec?

To be fair he is our MVP (outside of Price) and plays every situation. His 5M cap hit is very much worth what he brings. I'm sorry but to get him you'd really need to add. It isn't all about the points you find on HockeyDB
Columbus doesn't need wings and only needs top 6 centers and first pairing dmen.
You would have to pay very well to get Methot. Huselius has good value, he is a regular 60-70 point producer. Both Methot and Huselius are valuable players.

I can understand if you don't want to send Plekanic. Spacek doesn't have great value anymore.

How about Eller, Weber and Spacek?

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Columbus doesn't need wings and only needs top 6 centers and first pairing dmen.
You would have to pay very well to get Methot. Huselius has good value, he is a regular 60-70 point producer. Both Methot and Huselius are valuable players.

I can understand if you don't want to send Plekanic. Spacek doesn't have great value anymore.

How about Eller, Weber and Spacek?
it's something I would consider for sure...depending on future contract demands of Methot obviously

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can't say I blame you!!!



Personally I feel that Umberger is exactly what Montreal is in need of for the top 6. If a 1st is what it would take use it and add a mid level prospect
Go ask Boston for Lucic. You'll get a warmer reception, because then they'll at least know you're simply being absurd.

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Spacek has 2.25 of CAP no problem
not 3.83
Spacek Has 3.83 .... not 2.25

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The Habs could get Methot, but it will take more than this. Additionally, Columbus is not looking for Wingers, so no to Andrei.



To Montreal: Methot, Huselius

To Columbus: Plekanic, Spacek
This is incredibly hilarious - thank you so much for a good old fashioned belly laugh. That was awesome

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The Habs could get Methot, but it will take more than this. Additionally, Columbus is not looking for Wingers, so no to Andrei.


To Montreal: Methot, Huselius

To Columbus: Plekanic, Spacek
You don't understand the trade.......

Huselius - Winger
Kostitsyn - Winger

Spacek - Dman
Methot - Dman

They void out each others positions, years, and cap.

Huselius - 1 more year 4.75
Spacek - 1 more year 3.83

Kostitsyn - RFA- last year - 3.25
Methot - RFA - last year - 1.01

"Plekanec", you wouldn't get him for that package alone.

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Montreal

Gomez
Kostitsyn
Weber
1st round pick '11/'12

for

Columbus

Huselius
Vermette
Hejda


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Montreal

Gomez
Kostitsyn
Weber
1st round pick '11/'12

for

Columbus

Huselius
Vermette
Hejda

I give this a C-. Vermette and Gomez are both having off years, but Vermette's off year has been better than Gomez's - and of course, contract. Huselius-for-Kostitsyn is a serious downgrade on offense for us. Weber for Hejda is somewhat nice for us, and the extra 1st is useful, but they're not quite enough to justify the two downgrades and the large extra cap hit.

So, no thanks.

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I give this a C-. Vermette and Gomez are both having off years, but Vermette's off year has been better than Gomez's - and of course, contract. Huselius-for-Kostitsyn is a serious downgrade on offense for us. Weber for Hejda is somewhat nice for us, and the extra 1st is useful, but they're not quite enough to justify the two downgrades and the large extra cap hit.

So, no thanks.
Explanation please?

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