Value of: Clowe to Canucks

[Pinkfloyd]

Originally Posted by Hi-wayman

You pointed out just how good Clowe was in cycling and being hard to knock off the puck. I realize the high esteme Shark fans hold Clowe and how superior he is but the Canucks have a couple of brothers that are reasonable in those skills too. Maybe you have heard of them?

Sorry it was Hockeyball that made that claim, not yourself.

Sedins are good puck players but they are not even close to being as physical as Clowe is and that is both in terms of overall physicality and in terms of how physical Clowe is on the boards in the cycle. You've proven my point. Sedins have some board play skills but even if you give the Canucks that, every line that you expect offense from needs those skills and that simply would mean you have one line with those skills...which will not be enough. The Canucks as they are currently comprised up front is ripe for an upset.

[ProstheticConscience]

Originally Posted by Pinkfloyd

Sedins are good puck players but they are not even close to being as physical as Clowe is and that is both in terms of overall physicality and in terms of how physical Clowe is on the boards in the cycle. You've proven my point. Sedins have some board play skills but even if you give the Canucks that, every line that you expect offense from needs those skills and that simply would mean you have one line with those skills...which will not be enough. The Canucks as they are currently comprised up front is ripe for an upset.

You mean, a team that might not have post-season success? But how would a Sharks fans be able to recognize the signs of that...?

Ok, Clowe on the Canucks...*drool*...

But obviously not happening without giving them Ehrhoff and/or Malhotra back (draft picks and/or prospects with Manny). And we're keeping them.

[Hi-wayman]

Originally Posted by Pinkfloyd

Sedins are good puck players but they are not even close to being as physical as Clowe is and that is both in terms of overall physicality and in terms of how physical Clowe is on the boards in the cycle. You've proven my point. Sedins have some board play skills but even if you give the Canucks that, every line that you expect offense from needs those skills and that simply would mean you have one line with those skills...which will not be enough. The Canucks as they are currently comprised up front is ripe for an upset.

Oh well I guess everyone has a right to their own opinion. The answer won't be known until the end of the season and playoffs. Good luck to the Sharks in their Cup run this year. From the sound of it the Canucks don't stand much of a chance against your powerhouse team.

[WTFetus]

Originally Posted by ProstheticConscience

You mean, a team that might not have post-season success? But how would a Sharks fans be able to recognize the signs of that...?

Ok, Clowe on the Canucks...*drool*...

But obviously not happening without giving them Ehrhoff and/or Malhotra back (draft picks and/or prospects with Manny). And we're keeping them.

I don't see what the sarcasm was for. Yes, the Sharks have failed in the playoffs multiple times, therefore shouldn't we as fans know a team that is bound to fail when we see one? It's not like we're denying anything.

Also, the Sharks don't need Malhotra back as they have more than enough center depth. Doug Wilson could have signed him if he really wanted, but felt that 2.5 million was a bit too much and told him to take the Canucks' offer.

EDIT: Just for the record, I don't necessarily agree with PF's prediction of an early exit for the Canucks. On paper, they are the favorites. However, the same went for the 08-09 Sharks. It really depends on how they do in the final stretch of the season and who their first round match-up is. I'm not one to make any early predictions. Anything could happen.

[Hi-wayman]

Originally Posted by WTFetus

I don't see what the sarcasm was for. Yes, the Sharks have failed in the playoffs multiple times, therefore shouldn't we as fans know a team that is bound to fail when we see one? It's not like we're denying anything.

Also, the Sharks don't need Malhotra back as they have more than enough center depth. Doug Wilson could have signed him if he really wanted, but felt that 2.5 million was a bit too much and told him to take the Canucks' offer.

EDIT: Just for the record, I don't necessarily agree with PF's prediction of an early exit for the Canucks. On paper, they are the favorites. However, the same went for the 08-09 Sharks. It really depends on how they do in the final stretch of the season and who their first round match-up is. I'm not one to make any early predictions. Anything could happen.

I think the sarcasm is based on the premise that the Canucks will fail due to a poor, inadiquate top six. As most Canuck fans feel, barring injury, this is one of the team's strong points, so comes the sarcastic replies. Still we will see at the end of the season and playoffs.

[Derick*]

I would not want the Sharks to trade any of Thornton, Pavelski, Clowe, or Couture for any price they could get.

[quat]

Originally Posted by WTFetus

I don't see what the sarcasm was for. Yes, the Sharks have failed in the playoffs multiple times, therefore shouldn't we as fans know a team that is bound to fail when we see one? It's not like we're denying anything.

Also, the Sharks don't need Malhotra back as they have more than enough center depth. Doug Wilson could have signed him if he really wanted, but felt that 2.5 million was a bit too much and told him to take the Canucks' offer.

EDIT: Just for the record, I don't necessarily agree with PF's prediction of an early exit for the Canucks. On paper, they are the favorites. However, the same went for the 08-09 Sharks. It really depends on how they do in the final stretch of the season and who their first round match-up is. I'm not one to make any early predictions. Anything could happen.

I guess the comment was that the Canucks top six was too soft, and yet one could never say that about any of the Sharks teams that failed to advance. They have always been monsters size wise, and mobile to boot.

So, since a team with that make up repeatedly failed to produce, why would the Canucks be better off going in that direction?

[Houndpower]

Originally Posted by EricCartman

Clowe is one of the most important players on the Sharks. I doubt he gets moved. Better chance of Thornton being moved than him.

Thornton ....you're kidding right ?