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HNIC- Versteeg/Beauchemin

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02-05-2011, 08:17 PM
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HNIC- Versteeg/Beauchemin

Basically said offers for Versteeg and Beauchemin have picked up and that both will most likely be dealt by the deadline.

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I just don't see the point in dealing Versteeg unless they get an offer they can't refuse.

Beauchemin, sure.

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Versteeg's performed as expected. He's young. Has a Cup ring. Why trade him?

[EDIT] Looking at Versteeg's stats on the year, the numbers are even a little higher than I expected.

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I just don't see the point in dealing Versteeg unless they get an offer they can't refuse.

Beauchemin, sure.
Versteeg isn't likely to go unless he can be packaged for an upgrade at C

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Versteeg's performed as expected. He's young. Has a Cup ring. Why trade him?
Projected 3rd Line next year w/ a legit top line centre:

Versteeg (3.1M) - Bozak (~1.9M) - Armstrong (3M)

Sure, it's one hell of a 3rd line, but it's just too much to pay, rather get a vet for around 1M to take the left wing or call up Mueller/Caputi.

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02-05-2011, 08:29 PM
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Projected 3rd Line next year w/ a legit top line centre:

Versteeg (3.1M) - Bozak (~1.9M) - Armstrong (3M)

Sure, it's one hell of a 3rd line, but it's just too much to pay, rather get a vet for around 1M to take the left wing or call up Mueller/Caputi.
With the cap going up to 60+ million, the bonus penalty coming off, Giguere's 6 million gone, Bozak going from 3.7 to about 1 million; there's plenty of cap space to go around.

Leafs will have over 14 million to fill a few roster spots.

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Basically said offers for Versteeg and Beauchemin have picked up and that both will most likely be dealt by the deadline.

this is Burke trying to create a demand

we have seen this show before the last 2 dead line days

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unless he wants out, or some1's overpaying, I see no reason to trade him

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I just don't see the point in dealing Versteeg unless they get an offer they can't refuse.

Beauchemin, sure.
This.

It is RUMOURED that he wants out, but who knows for sure.

Frankly, i don't want to trade him unless it is part of a package to bring in another top line player.

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This.

It is RUMOURED that he wants out, but who knows for sure.

Frankly, i don't want to trade him unless it is part of a package to bring in another top line player.
he killed those rumors he was actually pissed that those rumors started

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he killed those rumors he was actually pissed that those rumors started
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If Toronto is going to start taking away valuable players for next year, they better be getting players for our top line back. I have no doubt that Burke is shopping these two, but with the quality of UFAs this year, there just isn't a better way to spend the money that they currently make, so trading them for picks/prospects doesn't make sense.

Sure, $7.5m is an expensive 3rd line next year, but unless Versteeg can allow us to get a top line forward, there isn't any better place to spend that money.

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With the cap going up to 60+ million, the bonus penalty coming off, Giguere's 6 million gone, Bozak going from 3.7 to about 1 million; there's plenty of cap space to go around.

Leafs will have over 14 million to fill a few roster spots.
Uh... Bozak, even on pace for 32 points, signing for 1M? Really? Is he that bad? I thought he had potential to be a top line centre?

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Uh... Bozak, even on pace for 32 points, signing for 1M? Really? Is he that bad? I thought he had potential to be a top line centre?
Prolly a little north of $1M. If you listen to the crazy Leafs posters then he had top line centre potential. I think he's potential is still a 2nd line centre but right now and next year he should be on the 3rd line.

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Uh... Bozak, even on pace for 32 points, signing for 1M? Really? Is he that bad? I thought he had potential to be a top line centre?
He's cooled off significantly from last season.

He'll be one of those 3rd line centers that you don't mind putting on the 1st or 2nd line if there is injuries.

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I just don't see the point in dealing Versteeg unless they get an offer they can't refuse.
Exactly. He wont be traded unless its something Burke really values, which means probably only a serious forward prospect. I doubt even Burke would trade him for a 1st unless it was a lottery pick.

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Uh... Bozak, even on pace for 32 points, signing for 1M? Really? Is he that bad? I thought he had potential to be a top line centre?
He could still be a pretty good 60 point 2-way 2nd line center which may be borderline top line on bad teams.

Personally, I would like to keep Versteeg but if he can be traded for someone who is a little tougher, bigger and can complement Kessel game, then I have no problem with that. Obviously the production needs to be there too.

I'm interested to see what Beauchemin could fetch. It seems like a pretty weak trade deadline upcoming so there could be tons of interest in Beauchemin.

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Uh... Bozak, even on pace for 32 points, signing for 1M? Really? Is he that bad? I thought he had potential to be a top line centre?
Toronto hype and nothing more. He's average at best. He's at best a 3rd line center who could fill in on the 2nd line on a good team.

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Toronto hype and nothing more. He's average at best. He's at best a 3rd line center who could fill in on the 2nd line on a good team.
Yes. it was toronto who created all the hype when bozak was a much sought-after college free agent with multiple NHL teams interested in him. thanks for setting the record straight.

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I think Versteeg has privately asked for a trade. Burke has said in the past, that once you ask for a trade, you are gone. So I can see Versteeg being moved. I'd prefer to hang on to him. He's kind of like Kessel, in that you can see the talent, but he leaves you wanting more. I think he's been playing a lot of the year with injuries, but he's great one night...disappears the next.


A trade to Pittsburg may make some sense. Maybe for Tangradi ? Who Burke loves.

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Now that Malkin is gone for the year, perhaps a Pittsburg trade isn't that unrealistic.

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Yes. it was toronto who created all the hype when bozak was a much sought-after college free agent with multiple NHL teams interested in him. thanks for setting the record straight.
TSN/CBC/Sportsnet hype the hell out of any Leaf move and he wasn't any different. College signings are a marginal source of talent but they hyped the hell out of em because the Leafs were involved. It's not the Leafs starting the hype but it does exist.

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TSN/CBC/Sportsnet hype the hell out of any Leaf move and he wasn't any different. College signings are a marginal source of talent but they hyped the hell out of em because the Leafs were involved. It's not the Leafs starting the hype but it does exist.
let me guess. the leafs created the Brunsstrom hype and Gilroy hype as well right?

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Yes. it was toronto who created all the hype when bozak was a much sought-after college free agent with multiple NHL teams interested in him. thanks for setting the record straight.
It was many Leaf fans who all summer where citing Bozak's rookie PPG rate and basically running down anyone that questioned his ability to be a legit top 6 forward. The hyping of Bozak this past summer on these boards was quite massive.

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let me guess. the leafs created the Brunsstrom hype and Gilroy hype as well right?
Listen, you need to learn how to read.

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