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02-06-2011, 12:28 PM
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Wheeler+2nd for Versteeg and Kaberle?
**** that noise

i dont want wheeler anywhere near my team and a 2nd doesnt help much

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02-06-2011, 12:31 PM
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The truth is Schroeder is an over rated prospect. He was considered a possible steal at the draft, but the truth is he was taken later for a reason. he hasn't done much at the pro level yet and has failed to impress.
truth is Schroeder was great at the end of last year and into the AHL playoffs. Truth is he was mis-used earlier in the year then suffered an ankle injury. The truth is that he is now back healthy and playing his natural centre position and doing very well I might add.

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02-06-2011, 12:33 PM
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LOL no they don't.

I don't know what's more stupid about this. The fact that a Canucks fan proposed this deal or the fact that a couple Leaf homers actually said no to it.
Are you ****ing kidding me???

You're being offered a 1st round pick and a prospect who was a 1st round pick 2 years ago for a guy who's on pace for 54 points on a crap Leafs team and yet you would actually pass on it??

Good luck getting a blue chip prospect and a 1st for your 2nd/3rd line forward
For a minute there, I confused Schroeder with Schneider. Yeah, as a Leaf fan I would take that deal. Done. No take backs.


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02-06-2011, 12:33 PM
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Paul Mara + Mark Mitera + 3rd rnd pick for Francois Beachemin

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02-06-2011, 12:34 PM
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Paul Mara + Mark Mitera + 3rd rnd pick for Francois Beachemin
Beleskey for Beauchemin straight up.

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02-06-2011, 12:36 PM
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Wheeler+2nd for Versteeg and Kaberle?
Thats like me saying:
Bozak for Krecji

Why would we want that deal, we get bent over.

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02-06-2011, 12:40 PM
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Paul Mara + Mark Mitera + 3rd rnd pick for Francois Beachemin
Etem/Palmeiri + 1st

for

Versteeg + Beauch

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02-06-2011, 12:43 PM
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Versteeg is 24 and is a 50+ point winger. No point in moving him unless it's a terrific deal involving a real good young player.

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02-06-2011, 12:47 PM
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How about this

To TO:

Horton
min 2nd
Hamil

To Bos:

Versteeg
Kaberle

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02-06-2011, 12:50 PM
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How about this

To TO:

Horton
min 2nd
Hamil

To Bos:

Versteeg
Kaberle
I'd do it. Then Kabs resigns with us in the off season

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02-06-2011, 12:52 PM
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I'd do it. Then Kabs resigns with us in the off season
Even if he did I think it works for both teams. Especially if the rumors about Versteeg are true which I don't really put much weight into.

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02-06-2011, 12:53 PM
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Etem/Palmeiri + 1st

for

Versteeg + Beauch

?
lol no ty. i would give up belesky straight up for beauchemin. remember guys, Burke traded away a 2nd rnd pick in 2006 for a enforcer. im sure if we sent him a 2nd rnd pick and a minor leaguer, he would take the bait.

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02-06-2011, 12:54 PM
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TSN/CBC/Sportsnet hype the hell out of any Leaf move and he wasn't any different. College signings are a marginal source of talent but they hyped the hell out of em because the Leafs were involved. It's not the Leafs starting the hype but it does exist.
TSN/CBC/Sportsnet hype the hell out of the draft and nobody seems to see that.

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I DO NOT for the life of me understand why the Leafs would trade Versteeg! Thats a step in the wrong direction. If they move him they better be getting a hell of a deal...

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02-06-2011, 12:56 PM
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Even if he did I think it works for both teams. Especially if the rumors about Versteeg are true which I don't really put much weight into.
Horton would work nicely with kessel, and Hamil could replace versteeg on the third line. It would probably turn you guys into some serious contenders with Kabs feeding Chara his 105 mph clapper at the point on the pp.

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02-06-2011, 12:57 PM
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How about this

To TO:

Horton
min 2nd
Hamil

To Bos:

Versteeg
Kaberle
Yeah no. Horton is ridic overrated and a player who hardly tries. Hamill is close to being a bust and the 2nd is really the only asset the Leafs would be interested in.

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02-06-2011, 12:58 PM
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I DO NOT for the life of me understand why the Leafs would trade Versteeg! Thats a step in the wrong direction. If they move him they better be getting a hell of a deal...
They don't want to but they will as you said if they are getting a hell of a deal. Leafs need an upgrade over their centers or a big LW that can play with Kessel.

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02-06-2011, 12:59 PM
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Yeah no. Horton is ridic overrated and a player who hardly tries. Hamill is close to being a bust and the 2nd is really the only asset the Leafs would be interested in.
This is Burke we're talking about. I'm pretty sure Horton would interest him somewhat.

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02-06-2011, 01:00 PM
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I DO NOT for the life of me understand why the Leafs would trade Versteeg! Thats a step in the wrong direction. If they move him they better be getting a hell of a deal...
He is replaceable. He is a very nice player to have but in the offseason if we could sign a guy like Upshall, it wouldn't be much of a loss should we trade Steeger.

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They don't want to but they will as you said if they are getting a hell of a deal. Leafs need an upgrade over their centers or a big LW that can play with Kessel.
But can Versteeg really bring that sort of return?

A BIG left wing? Like Dustin Penner? He's pretty big

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02-06-2011, 01:04 PM
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I DO NOT for the life of me understand why the Leafs would trade Versteeg! Thats a step in the wrong direction. If they move him they better be getting a hell of a deal...
I agree.

It makes no sense to trade Kris Versteeg unless it's in a package procure a top-line forward in return. Even then, I'd question who is realistically available and whether their age corresponds to Versteeg's obvious potential. He fits the demographic of our roster, has championship experience, and can play at both ends of the ice. He isn't part of the problem here.

Outside of packaging him for a big name, I can only see him being dealt if he has explicitly requested a trade.

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02-06-2011, 01:05 PM
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If Toronto is going to start taking away valuable players for next year, they better be getting players for our top line back. I have no doubt that Burke is shopping these two, but with the quality of UFAs this year, there just isn't a better way to spend the money that they currently make, so trading them for picks/prospects doesn't make sense.

Sure, $7.5m is an expensive 3rd line next year, but unless Versteeg can allow us to get a top line forward, there isn't any better place to spend that money.
Pretty much this. It's not like were going to be getting a couple 6+ million dollar players for the top-line. We need to roll three-lines with 9 guys who are all basically 20-goal, 50-point players. That's pretty much our only option at this point.

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I agree.

It makes no sense to trade Kris Versteeg unless it's in a package procure a top-line forward in return. Even then, I'd question who is realistically available and whether their age corresponds to Versteeg's obvious potential. He fits the demographic of our roster, has championship experience, and can play at both ends of the ice. He isn't part of the problem here.

Outside of packaging him for a big name, I can only see him being dealt if he has explicitly requested a trade.
Perhaps packaging him with Beauch would fetch a good return, but what playoff team is going to give away a big center or LW?

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02-06-2011, 01:11 PM
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Yeah no. Horton is ridic overrated and a player who hardly tries. Hamill is close to being a bust and the 2nd is really the only asset the Leafs would be interested in.
So because you think Horton is overated means he has zero value. Got it. This trade is an effort for Burke to find someone that can create chemistry with Kessel which should be a huge goal of his. Versteeg was brought in with that thought in mind and it obviously hasn't worked out that way. Horton who is as good or better than Versteeg may be able to bring that chemistry and he's all of one year older locked in for two more years.

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Perhaps packaging him with Beauch would fetch a good return, but what playoff team is going to give away a big center or LW?
That's easy. NOT ONE. If your hoping for that kind of return you look at fringe teams or teams that are out looking for a change to their team for next. No legit team would even consider it.

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