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02-07-2011, 11:41 AM
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Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.

Kessel is Toronto's problem, let's not make him Ottawa's.
no , wilson is toronto's problem.

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02-07-2011, 11:43 AM
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spezza would be a leaf before kessel was a sen
Right...

That is to say, neither will EVER happen.

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02-07-2011, 11:45 AM
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what kind of team trades an elite goal scorer like kessel to a division rival??????




















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02-07-2011, 11:46 AM
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Only if Burke is the next GM for Ottawa and overpays for him
What? lol

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02-07-2011, 11:46 AM
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Toronto doesn't do this because any deal involving Kessel would revolve around a 1st (high) and maybe a 2nd in a "Deep" draft. There's great players in this draft but no franchise guys like Hall or Seguin so from a "save face or get lynched" standpoint Burke won't do it.

Sens don't do it because Kessel is entering his prime while they still need to rebuild their offense. Landeskog/RNH fill two holes they need on the wing for Spezza and can grow with the D as stated above.
he won't be hitting his prime for like another 5 years. 23 years old isn't prime

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02-07-2011, 11:49 AM
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no , wilson is toronto's problem.
Given their recent past and present I'd say they have more than one significant problem.

Kessel was:
-a potential #1 in the Crosby draft if he was eligible
-accused of being a poor teammate and having social issues
-slid to 5th overall after teams decided his interviews could not solve the questions
-traded after scoring 35 or so goals as a 21 year old and then was traded as an RFA, aren't players like that supposed to be untouchable?

Kessel is:
-underachieving in Toronto, partially because the team is bad and he is there best forward....guy needs a center
-now either, trying to find way out, or trying to force a coaching change...that coaching change is needed, but I can't see trying to make hints to Burke over the media and throwing your coach under the bus is a good thing...even if the coach does it to you. Respect your elders son.
-saying "I don't care" wayyyy too much

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02-07-2011, 11:50 AM
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Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.

Kessel is Toronto's problem, let's not make him Ottawa's.
He's right! Ottawa is an amazing team right now and Kessel would just mess up all the chemistry there team has. Besides they already have kovalev and alfredson. those two are a couple young snipers with years of play still left.


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02-07-2011, 11:52 AM
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He's right! Ottawa is an amazing team right now and Kessel would just mess up all the chemistry there team has. Besides they already have kovalev and alfredson. those two are a couple young snipers with years of play still left.

I mean, he certainly wouldnt help whatever chemistry they have lol, thats for sure.

The deal doesnt make sense for either team though, why would Ottawa, an awful developing team, trade a top five pick?

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02-07-2011, 11:59 AM
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He's right! Ottawa is an amazing team right now and Kessel would just mess up all the chemistry there team has. Besides they already have kovalev and alfredson. those two are a couple young snipers with years of play still left.

I think what he's saying is that this team is about to bring in several young players, our top prospects into the team over the next few years. He'd much rather have declining Alfredsson's and Gonchar's setting examples than prime Kessel.

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02-07-2011, 12:07 PM
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He's right! Ottawa is an amazing team right now and Kessel would just mess up all the chemistry there team has. Besides they already have kovalev and alfredson. those two are a couple young snipers with years of play still left.

why the hell would we be talking about messing up chemistry here. we're talking about not making the same mistake the leafs did, by trading away picks for an overrated malcontent.

do leaf fans ever have trouble sleeping at night knowing they had a shot at getting a franchise player like taylor hall?

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02-07-2011, 12:09 PM
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why the hell would we be talking about messing up chemistry here. we're talking about not making the same mistake the leafs did, by trading away picks for an overrated malcontent.

do leaf fans ever have trouble sleeping at night knowing they had a shot at getting a franchise player like taylor hall?
Hahah, this comment should turn out well.

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02-07-2011, 12:24 PM
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Hahah, this comment should turn out well.

Flame war begin.
hahaha, hey if someone chirps alfie, he better expect something back

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02-07-2011, 12:32 PM
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why the hell would we be talking about messing up chemistry here. we're talking about not making the same mistake the leafs did, by trading away picks for an overrated malcontent.

do leaf fans ever have trouble sleeping at night knowing they had a shot at getting a franchise player like taylor hall?
After a lifetime of disappointment you have to numb yourself to those things.

Don't worry Sens fans are well on their way. Look at the history........sucked horribly first bunch of years......actually built a pretty good team and had some nice regular seasons but were horrible playoff teams always losing to teams well below them in the standings..........at least that part is over now and they are back to being doormats. Course they have that one Cup back in 1919 or something like that.

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02-07-2011, 12:35 PM
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so, no to the kessel trade?

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02-07-2011, 12:36 PM
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hahaha, hey if someone chirps alfie, he better expect something back
Speaking of Alfie, the TSN turning point with the Sens happened in the playoffs a few years back when the great captain Alfie shot the puck at someone. If you think about it that's where the long descent started.

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02-07-2011, 12:36 PM
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three 1sts and two 2nds for kessel. Burkie's asking price.

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02-07-2011, 12:37 PM
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Speaking of Alfie, the TSN turning point with the Sens happened in the playoffs a few years back when the great captain Alfie shot the puck at someone. If you think about it that's where the long descent started.
The turning point??? dude, the ducks were just a much better team.

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02-07-2011, 01:22 PM
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I think Ottawa is currently wetting themselves over the chance to get Landeskog... the future heir to Alfie's swedish throne in Ottawa. They won't be trading their first rounder any time soon.

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02-07-2011, 01:33 PM
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After a lifetime of disappointment you have to numb yourself to those things.

Don't worry Sens fans are well on their way. Look at the history........sucked horribly first bunch of years......actually built a pretty good team and had some nice regular seasons but were horrible playoff teams always losing to teams well below them in the standings..........at least that part is over now and they are back to being doormats. Course they have that one Cup back in 1919 or something like that.
Yeah, that Cup final appearance in 2007 was a horrible experience for Sens fans. A run to the final was just soooo boring. Oh, by the way, when's the last time the Laughs were in a Cup final?

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I think Ottawa is currently wetting themselves over the chance to get Landeskog... the future heir to Alfie's swedish throne in Ottawa. They won't be trading their first rounder any time soon.
Or RNH I think, both are highly attractive options.

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02-07-2011, 01:49 PM
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Or RNH I think, both are highly attractive options.
Yeah, I like the symmetry of the Landeskog pick though. From a business standpoint, the marketers would love it. Alfie mentors younger version of himself etc. You can't really miss with either pick though. And I guess having a young Canadian kid wouldn't be a tough sell either in the nations capital. I just think Melnyk could cash in on Alfie's popularity.

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02-07-2011, 02:00 PM
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[QUOTE=ReggieDunlop7;30722062]I think Ottawa is currently wetting themselves over the chance to get Landeskog...QUOTE]

The thought of Larsson does aswell.

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02-07-2011, 02:02 PM
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There's no way in hell Ottawa sets themselves up to fail after Heatley burned them. No matter how well it might have been they just don't take the risk over the rebuild that allows them to build strengths and surpluses to deal for players who fit the team ideals and needs.

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If Ottawa could do this -- you bet your ### they would be all over it. They have just as much a desire for a quick turnaround as Toronto does. As the OP mentioned, Kessel is an extremely good fit for Spezza with the only caveat being leadership because neither of them have an ounce of it.

Toronto on the other hand doesn't do this. Their track record of developing forwards drafted in the first round is horrendous, and like Ottawa, they've got no interest in losing more games next year.

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I think Ottawa is currently wetting themselves over the chance to get Landeskog...QUOTE]

The thought of Larsson does aswell.
With Karlsson, Rundblad, Cowen, and Lee already in the system, I think Ottawa takes a forward with this pick. Just my opinion though

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