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Bring Me Back Upshall Or Umberger

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02-08-2011, 12:03 PM
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Bring Me Back Upshall Or Umberger

ok I want either back in orange for a epic playoff push....


lets make a deal

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02-08-2011, 12:29 PM
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How badly do you want them?

Are you willing to send either Carter or Giroux?

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How badly do you want them?

Are you willing to send either Carter or Giroux?
Umberger isn't worth either of those two guys

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How badly do you want them?

Are you willing to send either Carter or Giroux?


I'll counter with Shelley for Nash.

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How badly do you want them?

Are you willing to send either Carter or Giroux?

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Umberger isn't worth either of those two guys
I didn't claim what Upshall or Umberger is worth. I'm asking the OP what he is willing to give up.

Personally, I don't think either Scotty or RJ would make a huge difference for the Flyers. About the only places to upgrade areon the wings and 3rd pairing defensemen. While those two are wings, unless they are replacing Carcillo, Zherdev or Shelley, where's the big upgrade? Not to mention that the Salary Cap wouldn't allow them to replace those guys.


Of course goalie- and we all know that ain't gonna happen.

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I'd take RJ back. However, CBJ is not going to part with Umberger.

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I'd guess the Flyers could get Umberger for Carle or Coburn plus a pick or prospect.

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I didn't claim what Upshall or Umberger is worth. I'm asking the OP what he is willing to give up.

Personally, I don't think either Scotty or RJ would make a huge difference for the Flyers. About the only places to upgrade areon the wings and 3rd pairing defensemen. While those two are wings, unless they are replacing Carcillo, Zherdev or Shelley, where's the big upgrade? Not to mention that the Salary Cap wouldn't allow them to replace those guys.


Of course goalie- and we all know that ain't gonna happen.
3rd pairing d? Are you crazy? We have one of the better third pairings in the nhl this season with Andrej Meszaros and Sean O'Donnell.

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The Coyotes also need forwards for their playoff push, so I don't see how any deal involving Upshall can be worked out.

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Would love to have either one back, but seeing as how we are only willing to move picks/prospects/Carcillo I don't see either Phoenix or Columbus making that sort of deal.

Flyers could use one more 2nd/3rd line type winger.

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How badly do you want them?

Are you willing to send either Carter or Giroux?
You don't have Umberger and Upshall , I still wouldn't trade Carter or Giroux for them together.

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3rd pairing d? Are you crazy? We have one of the better third pairings in the nhl this season with Andrej Meszaros and Sean O'Donnell.
Am I crazy? They are good 3rd pairing guys. No reason the Flyers couldn't upgrade. There are better defensemen than O'Donnell and Meszaros.

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You don't have Umberger and Upshall , I still wouldn't trade Carter or Giroux for them together.
Do you think I'm representing a team?

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Coyotes are 5th in the West and probably looking for another forward so I seriously doubt Upshall is on the block unless its an overpayment which the Flyers wouldn't even think about

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Am I crazy? They are good 3rd pairing guys. No reason the Flyers couldn't upgrade. There are better defensemen than O'Donnell and Meszaros.
However, there a far more worse 3rd pairings than better than those two. Other 3rd pairing last year was our weakness. That and Michaels 5 hole.

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Am I crazy? They are good 3rd pairing guys. No reason the Flyers couldn't upgrade. There are better defensemen than O'Donnell and Meszaros.
As a third pairing, I'd honestly take Meszaros and O'Donnell over any other 3rd pairing in the NHL.


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However, there a far more worse 3rd pairings than better than those two. Other 3rd pairing last year was our weakness. That and Michaels 5 hole.
Our third pairing was really bad last year, Parent had like 1 shift per game. It was atrocious to watch in all honesty, as well as the series clinching goal.

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As a third pairing, I'd honestly take Meszaros and O'Donnell over any other 3rd pairing in the NHL.

We are set this year my friend. Homer will add without subtracting from roster and we will be drunken streakers come mid june with a cup victory


Our third pairing was really bad last year, Parent had like 1 shift per game. It was atrocious to watch in all honesty, as well as the series clinching goal.

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Am I crazy? They are good 3rd pairing guys. No reason the Flyers couldn't upgrade. There are better defensemen than O'Donnell and Meszaros.
The list of defensemen better than Meszaros is rapidly shrinking.

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Umberger for JVR

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I didn't claim what Upshall or Umberger is worth. I'm asking the OP what he is willing to give up.

Personally, I don't think either Scotty or RJ would make a huge difference for the Flyers. About the only places to upgrade areon the wings and 3rd pairing defensemen. While those two are wings, unless they are replacing Carcillo, Zherdev or Shelley, where's the big upgrade? Not to mention that the Salary Cap wouldn't allow them to replace those guys.


Of course goalie- and we all know that ain't gonna happen.
Flyers have ~3.6 million now, salary is not an issue.

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The list of defensemen better than Meszaros is rapidly shrinking.
And that list is still quite large.

Enormous actually.

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CBJ won't get rid of RJ. Plus he has another year on his contract, which would force us to lose Leino next year.

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The list of defensemen better than Meszaros is rapidly shrinking.
Meszaros has exceeded expectations. Those expectations, for most people, were bottom pairing at best, considering his performance in Tampa. He's been more than adequate, but that still does not mean that there are not many, many, MANY defensemen still more valuable than Meszaros.


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