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02-07-2011, 03:57 PM
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4 years and yes.

If Budivelnik (Ukrainian potential KHL club) would get his ITC (international transfer card) from Russian hockey federation and from that moment on he spends for consecutive years playing for very same team he becomes Ukrainian eligible.

(Example - Ainars Podzins. Born in Latvia, spent all of his life in Russia, signed for Dinamo Riga of KHL on a two year deal, Russian hockey federation gave his ITC to Latvian hockey federation on 27th September 2010, he officially becomes Latvia national team eligible on 28th September 2012. And that's it.)
or maybe he's not eligible at all? on the IIHF site for the 4 year rule it says it can only be done once, and he had to follow the 2 year rule to play for Russia in the first place, so I assume this means he's not allowed to switch back?

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02-07-2011, 04:52 PM
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Sergei Gaiduchenko will not play for Ukraine

http://news.uah.info/ukraine/page/48...NewsID/518162/ (russian)

http://translate.google.ca/translate...%26prmd%3Divns (translated)

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CSKA Moscow goalkeeper Sergei Gayduchenko together with the second Russian team began preparations for the Cup Evrovyzova, which will be held February 9-12....

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02-07-2011, 05:55 PM
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or maybe he's not eligible at all? on the IIHF site for the 4 year rule it says it can only be done once, and he had to follow the 2 year rule to play for Russia in the first place, so I assume this means he's not allowed to switch back?
He has not "switched" to Russia, since he never played for Ukraine. Switching from Russia to Ukraine would be his first switch, which is allowed.

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that doesnt necessarily mean he wont play for ukraine.Although it kind of gives you a hint that he wont...

Looks like he is just playing with a russian team in a tournament. Likely not an IIHF sanctioned one?

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Well that sucks for Ukraine. He could be a really big piece for them.

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EIHC tournaments are not run by the IIHF. This means nothing. Several people who are not eligible to play for their new nation under IIHF rules have already played in EIHC tournaments this season alone.

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02-07-2011, 11:10 PM
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EIHC tournaments are not run by the IIHF. This means nothing. Several people who are not eligible to play for their new nation under IIHF rules have already played in EIHC tournaments this season alone.
Yeah, it means nothing.

From his perspective at this point though, he has more to gain by going with Ukraine, no? At least he would get to play in the WC's and not these obscure tournaments, maybe get a chance to play in the top division *some day*, a chance he absolutely won't get with Russia

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He has not "switched" to Russia, since he never played for Ukraine. Switching from Russia to Ukraine would be his first switch, which is allowed.
Are you sure? He had to wait the 2 years before he was eligible, would that not count as a transfer? If it wasn't a transfer he would have been able to play for Russia the second he got a passport.

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EIHC tournaments are not run by the IIHF. This means nothing. Several people who are not eligible to play for their new nation under IIHF rules have already played in EIHC tournaments this season alone.
I am just going by what the article said, it stated he wouldn't play for Ukraine. While you maybe correct, I don't understand why someone would play in a minor tournament for one country only to switch to another in a major one

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I am just going by what the article said, it stated he wouldn't play for Ukraine. While you maybe correct, I don't understand why someone would play in a minor tournament for one country only to switch to another in a major one
Ukraine's training camp starts on the 7th, so I guess the article is right. If he had any intention of going to Ukraine, he wouldn't be suiting up for Russia's C-team or w/e it is


While we're on the topic of Ukrainian goaltenders, I was just reading an interview with Balaban and why he left Sokil.....the Russian team (Vorenzh) offered him new pads (lol!) Such a sad state we're in...

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Are you sure? He had to wait the 2 years before he was eligible, would that not count as a transfer? If it wasn't a transfer he would have been able to play for Russia the second he got a passport.
It's not a transfer unless he played for Ukraine (or any country other than Russia) before. See: http://www.iihf.com/channels/iihf-wo...igibility.html

Players who switch are eligible the minute they get their new citizenship, provided they have played 4 seasons in their new country.

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I am just going by what the article said, it stated he wouldn't play for Ukraine. While you maybe correct, I don't understand why someone would play in a minor tournament for one country only to switch to another in a major one
I'll admit that I didn't read the article so I didn't know it said he wouldn't play for Ukraine and I think you're right. The only reason I can see would be more playing time or making sure he stays in good condition.

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It's not a transfer unless he played for Ukraine (or any country other than Russia) before. See: http://www.iihf.com/channels/iihf-wo...igibility.html

Players who switch are eligible the minute they get their new citizenship, provided they have played 4 seasons in their new country.
Gaiduchenko, for example, had to play in Russia 2 years after getting his passport before becoming eligible for team Russia

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Gaiduchenko, for example, had to play in Russia 2 years after getting his passport before becoming eligible for team Russia
And? It's not an IIHF rule.

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And it turns out Gaiduchenko isn't even on the Russian B roster at the Enrgi Danmark Challenge.

Kudlaev and Shikin both play in the KHL Jr. league the MHL. The saga continues?

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And it turns out Gaiduchenko isn't even on the Russian B roster at the Enrgi Danmark Challenge.

Kudlaev and Shikin both play in the KHL Jr. league the MHL. The saga continues?
Gaiduchenko is injured and that is why he couldn't play

http://www.cska-hockey.ru/news/Gajdu...vtoroj_sbornoj (Russian)

http://translate.google.ca/translate...%26prmd%3Divns

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CSKA Moscow goalkeeper Sergei Gayduchenko was damaged leg in training the second Russian team and will not be able to help the team in matches next Evrovyzova Cup, which will be held February 9-12 at the Danish Odense.

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Makes sense.

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thank the lord, it's a sign


go home serhiy!

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