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02-11-2011, 02:59 PM
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Cody back to Manitoba while his good buddy will centre Forsberg tonight.

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Peace out Cody, you did great, kid.

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02-11-2011, 03:24 PM
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Why not? Five games is a short look, but to me, it looked like he's ready to contribute more than Torres, Glass, Bolduc, Volpatti, etc.

Heck, his 2 points is likely more than the rest of the entire bottom six combined in the past 5 games.

If anything, I thought it might be time to try him in a more expanded role. I'm quite curious to see the reasoning behing the move.
Name ONE player of our draft picks that hasn't spent a FULL season in Manitoba. The only guys are Henrik and Daniel. They spent an extra year in Sweden after being drafted playing tier one pro hockey.

Hodgson's season was basically a write off last year. So you are suggesting we take one of our potential top 6 forwards and put him in a checking role where he gets less than 10 minutes a game? OR, he could be the top player on the Moose, getting ample PP time and actually develop into the player we drafted.

Hodgson didn't look ready to play in our top 9, and he would be developing his game on our 4th line either. Also keep in mind that his ELC is a high cap hit compared to other serviceable players that are WAY more experienced in that role.

It's not only a business move, but a developmental move as well. Tons of guys have spent a good amount of time with the Moose, and have developed into great NHL players, no reason to deviate from that plan now...

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02-11-2011, 03:42 PM
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Im not sure if it was said yet, but Hodgson was only sent down because of Cap issues, not because of his play. With Salo coming back the Canucks would be over the Cap and that is the reason for Hodgson being sent down and Oreskivich being brought up

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02-11-2011, 03:45 PM
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it's cap related, it's clearly cap related, dosen't matter what they say, it's obvious enough.

You don't send down a player who is playing this well, and who has clearly improved the fourth line for no reason.

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Agree with both of you. Simply a cap issue with Salo coming back. And Cody can go back to playing some major minutes in Manitoba and, if he continues to improve, he'll be ready to help us in the post season. Gillis will have this all come together for the playoffs

I'll say it now.

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02-11-2011, 03:52 PM
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Botch disagrees.

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Neither cap space nor roster space an issue in Hodgson's demotion. Getting him more minutes, is.

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02-11-2011, 03:53 PM
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gillis seems to be using the lack of a salary cap in the playoffs almost as a loophole

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Ehh. I think it's a bit of both, TBH. Makes sense for Hodgson to get more minutes, but I think he would still be here if not for the cap issue. Even if they had wanted to keep Hodgson up, they couldn't have--right now, anyway.

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02-11-2011, 03:57 PM
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If Hamhuis is back relatively quickly, Tanev and his $900k are presumably going back down. A forward should be coming up then, so we'll see who it is (my money would be on Bill Sweatt, but Hodgson returning wouldn't be a surprise.)

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it's cap related, it's clearly cap related, dosen't matter what they say, it's obvious enough.

You don't send down a player who is playing this well, and who has clearly improved the fourth line for no reason.
well its not, thats pretty clear!

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02-11-2011, 04:02 PM
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Botch disagrees.
Must be some coincidence that the moment they activate Salo is the moment the realize they want Hodgson getting more minutes with the Moose. I'm totally sure Gillis loves the idea of going into a 5 games in 8 nights stretch with 12 forwards on the roster.


Now if Botchford said that cap space wasn't the only reason he was being sent down, then sure; however, if he's trying to say that that CBA rules didn't play a part, then he's pretty gullible.

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02-11-2011, 04:03 PM
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good, he got his time in the N. Got his first goal. Now go work on what you need to work on in the A.

Hopefully this signifies a move that will bring in some much needed bottom 6 help.
Hopefully his time here will keep him hungry for next September.

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02-11-2011, 04:03 PM
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I dont think this is the last we have seen of Hodgson this year.

Consistent of what management has done so far (giving lots of different guys a look in the bottom 6), Oreskovich gets in....and Hodgson gets a chance to use his NHL confidence in an offensive role playing 6 games in 9 days down on the farm.

I think getting those 6 games in down on the farm is being overlooked, its important not only for confidence, but also to get into game shape....Cody played really well up here, but he still isnt in great game shape.

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Name ONE player of our draft picks that hasn't spent a FULL season in Manitoba. The only guys are Henrik and Daniel. They spent an extra year in Sweden after being drafted playing tier one pro hockey.

Hodgson's season was basically a write off last year. So you are suggesting we take one of our potential top 6 forwards and put him in a checking role where he gets less than 10 minutes a game? OR, he could be the top player on the Moose, getting ample PP time and actually develop into the player we drafted.

Hodgson didn't look ready to play in our top 9, and he would be developing his game on our 4th line either. Also keep in mind that his ELC is a high cap hit compared to other serviceable players that are WAY more experienced in that role.

It's not only a business move, but a developmental move as well. Tons of guys have spent a good amount of time with the Moose, and have developed into great NHL players, no reason to deviate from that plan now...
Mason Raymond?

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02-11-2011, 04:13 PM
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Mason Raymond?
And he really should have spent a year there.

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And he really should have spent a year there.
No arguments there.

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02-11-2011, 04:42 PM
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Hodgson's play was a pleasant surprise all things considered. Doesn't have enough experience though for the team to hang their hat on for the playoffs.

Definitely light at the end of the tunnel - will be on the team next year and with Malhotra, will fill the 3rd/4th line centre slots behind two of the best in the NHL.

Boy do you learn a lot about players seeing them at the NHL level. Its pretty much all speculation until they get to the show. So what Gillis is doing calling guys up and giving them a trial by fire is totally the best way to do it.

I could still see him getting traded but it would have to be as part of a package for an elite linemate for Kesler - and no, we are not talking Kris friendly Versteeg.
More like a Parise. Otherwise, the upside of who we'd get would in all likelihood be outweighed by Hodgson's future contributions.

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Hodgson's play was a pleasant surprise all things considered. Doesn't have enough experience though for the team to hang their hat on for the playoffs.

Definitely light at the end of the tunnel - will be on the team next year and with Malhotra, will fill the 3rd/4th line centre slots behind two of the best in the NHL.

Boy do you learn a lot about players seeing them at the NHL level. Its pretty much all speculation until they get to the show. So what Gillis is doing calling guys up and giving them a trial by fire is totally the best way to do it.

I could still see him getting traded but it would have to be as part of a package for an elite linemate for Kesler - and no, we are not talking Kris friendly Versteeg.
More like a Parise. Otherwise, the upside of who we'd get would in all likelihood be outweighed by Hodgson's future contributions.
Well thats even less likely, but I get your point and agree fully.

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So if you can't send anybody down to the AHL after the trade deadline, are we still allowed to call them up?

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So if you can't send anybody down to the AHL after the trade deadline, are we still allowed to call them up?
Yes. Each team is allowed 4 call ups between the trade deadline and the end of the regular season. If they use those up, they're allowed to make an emergency recall if they can't field a full team (assuming they remain cap compliant).

A team can also return those post deadline call ups to the AHL whenever they want, they just can't send down guys who were on the NHL roster on deadline day.

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