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02-14-2011, 09:54 AM
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Toronto
Brad Stuart +/-

Detroit
Giguere +/-

These 2 as a starting point for a deal

Detroit could use the goaltending help and use the free space next season to re-up Ericsson.

Stuart would be more useful than any late rnd picks or fringe prospects that giguere would fetch.

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02-14-2011, 09:59 AM
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Detroit gets substantially worse, and takes on salary they can't afford. Non-starter

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02-14-2011, 10:02 AM
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Stuarts cap hit is not small if they lose stuart they can afford giggy

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Stuarts cap hit is not small if they lose stuart they can afford giggy
1) Giggy isn't an upgrade over Howard. We don't want him
2) Detroit's issues have been more on defense than in goal, and you're asking for one of our better Dmen.
3) If Detroit needs to salary dump to sign players they'd wait to the off-season.

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No. Its better to have a consistant D-man than an iffy, over-priced goaltender.

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No. Its better to have a consistant D-man than an iffy, over-priced goaltender.
Its not a deal Detroit will make (for obvious reasons) but Giguere is more than an iffy goalie. He's actually consistent and he has played very well considering the team he is playing on. He wouldn't be brought in on any team for an upgrade but rather as a backup to another goalie.

The overpriced argument is moot. He's an unrestricted FA. His cost matters only if a team can fit him. Nothing more.

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While Giguere would be a welcomed addition to DET, I really don't want Stuart to leave. He was, until his injury, one of the most consistent d-men on Detroit's roster.

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det will have to dump more cap to make room doesnt work....more of a sideways move or a backward step...so I dont think Det does this

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Stuart is one of the few physical and stay-at-home defensemen on the Red Wings' roster. He certainly will not be traded for Giguere, whose salary is even higher than Stuart's. Ericsson has developed into a solid lower-pairing-defensman, but Detroit will not sacrifice to much in order to afford an extension. Kindl might take over his role next year, with B. Smith receiving some ice time.

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Stuarts cap hit is not small if they lose stuart they can afford giggy
For what Stuart brings to the table, his cap hit is small enough.

As an aside, Stuart has become so underrated by non-Wings fans.

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If Detroit were to do this (and they wouldn't) they would need to send more salary back towards Toronto. Something closer (albeit still not happening) would be Giguere+Gunnarsson for Stuart+Hudler. Detroit would be sending 6.625 to Toronto, Toronto would be sending 6.8 back to Detroit.

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I'm a mutual fan and I can say without a doubt, Detroits loss would be far less then their gain.

Stuart is underrated....while he didn't become the number 1 some projected....he's an excellent 2-3 guy.

I also think Howard has been solid for the most part and I would stick with him. He's one year older, one year more experienced....and most importantly, has some playoff experience under his belt.

IMO Holland should be looking for a rental vet d man like a Chris Phillips.

Burke will get no value for Giguere...did you forget what they traded to get him? If Giggy moves, it will be for another bad but hopefully expiring contract.

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