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A Steady 3rd Pairing Defenseman to NYR

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02-14-2011, 01:57 PM
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ugh god stop with the vandemeer offers, the rangers dont want him or need him. Hes a scrub journeyman defender who can only play as a 6/7th dman. Thats not what the rangers need.
Eh? Look at the title of the thread. The original poster said he wanted a 3rd pairing Dman that was not expensive to obtain. If you want a better grade perhaps start a new thread on that subject.

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If Salvador were healthy, I'd say he would be a perfect fit. But alas.....

Plus the whole Devils/Rangers thing.

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We need a number 5
The title and first post clearly state "bottom pair", not "number 5". Nice try though.

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no he wouldnt. the guy is absolute ****. hes a scrub defenseman and if we were to go for him it would be a huge waste of anything we give up for him. Id rather ride out our pairing of Del Zotto and Eminger the rest of the way then.

There are PLENTY of other options that people have brought up that i would be willing to go for.. Im sure there is more but i cant think right now im at work.

Montador
Allen
Hedja
Wideman

We need someone who can actually play the game and vandemeer is NOT what we want or need. If we had to give up quality assets then id much rather go for phillips, mccabe or someone that can fill in nicely and can play more than 10min a night and be a positive for us.

Either way, Gilroy needs to go, Del Zotto needs more time to settle in down in the A, and Eminger needs a solid partner so they can take another 5-10min of ice time and give our top 4 some much needed rest.
Allen and Hejda (and possibly Wideman) will cost a lot to get (for a rental). And Montador isn't any better than Vandermeer. If you think he's total ****, then you are wrong. He's good at everything, great at nothing, and is a solid NHL defenseman.

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Allen and Hejda (and possibly Wideman) will cost a lot to get (for a rental). And Montador isn't any better than Vandermeer. If you think he's total ****, then you are wrong. He's good at everything, great at nothing, and is a solid NHL defenseman.
Montador is a much better defenseman than Vandermeer.

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02-14-2011, 02:07 PM
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Montador is a much better defenseman than Vandermeer.
Disagree. And I'm not a Vandermeer fan.

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The title and first post clearly state "bottom pair", not "number 5". Nice try though.
Reading comprehension, much?

Numbers 5 & 6 are the bottom pair.

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The title and first post clearly state "bottom pair", not "number 5". Nice try though.
....bottom pair = number 5 defenseman.

#1-#2: first pair
#3-#4: second pair
#5-#6: third pair, or, bottom pair, if you will.

And Montador isn't a much better defenseman than Vandermeer? Yeah, right.

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If playes like Vandemeer are not good enough, pickings are going to be slim.

You basically want a #5 guy, but don't want to pay him very much. Few teams, even rebuilding ones are going to be willing to part with that. Any team in the playoffs is going to want him for depth.

I think your best bet is to go for an overpaid yet expiring contract.

The ideal would be a player like Andy Greene. Assuming NJ doesn't just resign him, he won't come cheap though. Another possibility: Martinek from the NYI.....

It's tough, just not that many teams are sellers at this point. Maybe in a couple of weeks, many more teams may throw in the towel.

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Skrastins for Gilroy?

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Yes please. I'll carry Gilroy on my back to Dallas.

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No duh, Sherlock. We'd save cap next year and take a small hit the year after.

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Allen and Hejda (and possibly Wideman) will cost a lot to get (for a rental). And Montador isn't any better than Vandermeer. If you think he's total ****, then you are wrong. He's good at everything, great at nothing, and is a solid NHL defenseman.
Sorry zues, i think your the only one advocating to get vandermeer. I completly disagree with you observation or what you were told of vandermeer. The guy has tremendously slow footspeed. you thought malik was slow? he has no offense, and doesnt even have solid defensive positioning. He would be thrown into the doghouse in the first 2 periods. I will admit i like his toughness and he does give up the body, whether its blocking a shot or fighting someone.

yea i said that they would actually cost something but having someone of Allens or Phillips stature on the backend but it would seriously solidify our defense.

If Phillips finds his game again here he would be HUGE! If he doesnt hes still a great 3-4dman but he will cost a couple of solid assets.

Allen i believe would come at a perfect price for what he is worth. Hes a very undervalued dman that can do it all. With McCabe and Wideman there he doesnt get the credit he deserves. He would fit perfectly for what we want and would be cheap to get.

Montador is a very capable dman of playing 15min a night with Eminger that can add alittle of everything and is solid in his own end. They can both log 15min a night, which eases back the time of Staal and Girardi back to around 22-23min rather than 30, they would block shots, and play on the PP or PK.

I dont think Allen and Montador would cost as much as your thinking. I would say a 2nd and a player like Weiss/Dupont

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Drewiske could be had from the Kings.

For Gaborik, maybe?

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