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02-14-2011, 11:33 AM
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Nothing of value and no core player for a plug...period. Only expendables should be traded for rentals...period. Anything else is working backwards. Just get the kids in, let them compete, get their pallets wet and get them hungry for what the playoffs are like. Next year is another year. We'll get our cup, it doesn't have to be this year.

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And this is where Sather fools you, he gains your trust all season long, you ask for cheap help like Allen or Montador, and we will not get cheap help. I am not going to go through his track history, he is infatuated by d-men who can provide offense. He rarely ever trades for a stay at home d-man, and with our PP floundering until the last game I fully expect him to make a deal for a d-man that provides a cannon or can at least run our PP. He may not go the rental route such as a Kaberle or a McCabe, but he could easily add cheap help by going after Kurtis Foster, who has a bomb and is signed for 1.8 million next season. Foster could log 3rd line minutes, may not cost much more than a pick and a prospect, thus making Gilroy expendable to be dealt elsewhere as it is unlikely he will be back. Sather loves to trade with the Oilers. I hope he makes a trade for a Foster type, or even Tyutin to shore up the 3rd pairing, but I really see him going after a Kaberle or McCabe, but he has shocked us before so we will find out.
I don't think he'd go after McCabe. Apparently they scouted him, and were not impressed at all. I don't think Foster would be a target either, due to his 1.8 cap hit until the end of next season, which could potentially end all Richards talk, and Sather would NOT risk signing Richards for a ****** defenseman like Foster.

I do think he'd want to move Girlroy, though. If he could get something of value for him, even better.

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02-14-2011, 11:50 AM
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I don't think he'd go after McCabe. Apparently they scouted him, and were not impressed at all. I don't think Foster would be a target either, due to his 1.8 cap hit until the end of next season, which could potentially end all Richards talk, and Sather would NOT risk signing Richards for a ****** defenseman like Foster.

I do think he'd want to move Girlroy, though. If he could get something of value for him, even better.
I didn't hear that he wasn't interested in McCabe, all I heard is that McCabe may not waive his no trade as he is happy there. As far as foster, he isn't making 2.5 to 3 million, one more season at 1.8 and could easily be traded if he doesn't work out. The cap is rumored to go up 3 million, figure that with a buyout of Drury, Richards could still be signed and I doubt Foster stops Sather from going after him.

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I didn't hear that he wasn't interested in McCabe, all I heard is that McCabe may not waive his no trade as he is happy there. As far as foster, he isn't making 2.5 to 3 million, one more season at 1.8 and could easily be traded if he doesn't work out. The cap is rumored to go up 3 million, figure that with a buyout of Drury, Richards could still be signed and I doubt Foster stops Sather from going after him.
Steve Zipay answered a question during one of his weekly mind numbing chats about McCabe. Zipay said the Rangers brass is split on McCabe. They aren't sold on him.

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Considering the Rangers have never completed a trade with the Devils, i'd have to agree.
Lou did try to re-acquire Malakhov in 2004 before trading him to Philly. Brooks reported that.

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But to stay on topic, THIS is the stuff that I love to hear. Logic. Actual logic from Sather. He seems to be turning a corner finally, and he's starting to gain a tiny bit of trust from moi. He's still a bit of a time bomb, though. If he can keep lowering his awful contract amount, like he has the past few summers, he could be a competent GM, which feels pretty nice.
Sather has been absolutely fine outside a handful of FA signings...

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Sather has been absolutely fine outside a handful of FA signings...
Well one side is we shoulda tanked but grabbed Jagr and missed our opportunity for Crosby, Ovie, Malkin etc so by not losing we lost. So it gets into a arbitrary tank vs no tank debate when you say that.

Plus the handful is pretty glaringly awful.

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Well one side is we shoulda tanked but grabbed Jagr and missed our opportunity for Crosby, Ovie, Malkin etc so by not losing we lost. So it gets into a arbitrary tank vs no tank debate when you say that.

Plus the handful is pretty glaringly awful.
Thats not a handful it's a deformed claw from the creature from the black lagoons full . At least he erased the Gomez deal and we got McDonagh

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Sather has been absolutely fine outside a handful of FA signings...
But those handful, like Gomez, Drury, and Redden, handcuffed us from taking the next step in free agency.

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i think its fairly simple. if you can look at the roster and say to yourself in all honesty...this is a team that has a legitimate chance at winning a cup...then you have a contender.

I did have that feeling the year we had Drury, Gomez, Jagr and Shanny.

havent since.

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Steve Zipay answered a question during one of his weekly mind numbing chats about McCabe. Zipay said the Rangers brass is split on McCabe. They aren't sold on him.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/range...4WSn2vC8vwjvzI

"In other words, you bet the Blueshirts will inquire about Florida's Bryan McCabe, who may return this week from the broken jaw that has sidelined him for approximately a month, but they won't yield a first-rounder and a top prospect, let alone a young roster player, for the privilege of getting him."

Since Brooks said we are interested and you said you are hearing otherwise, whom should I believe

I didn't expect to see McCabe a Ranger either, but figured he would be cheaper than Kaberle and Sather was defintely interested in McCabe in the past

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But those handful, like Gomez, Drury, and Redden, handcuffed us from taking the next step in free agency.
That goes without saying... But Sather's job includes other responsibilities and duties outside FA signings... He has performed just fine in those other areas... He has managed the roster extremely well with regards to the young talent within the organization and has fared well in trades and not shipped out any significant youth that has come back to bite us.... People can criticize him all they want for those horrible FA contracts, and rightfully so, but they shouldn't ignore areas where he has done a good job with regards to his duties as a GM.

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That goes without saying... But Sather's job includes other responsibilities and duties outside FA signings... He has performed just fine in those other areas... He has managed the roster extremely well with regards to the young talent within the organization and has fared well in trades and not shipped out any significant youth that has come back to bite us.... People can criticize him all they want for those horrible FA contracts, and rightfully so, but they shouldn't ignore areas where he has done a good job with regards to his duties as a GM.
I'm not at all, I'm actually warming up to Slats a bit(), but those signings are going to be burnt into anyone's memories when thinking of Sather, first and foremost, unfortunately.

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Outside of the interview I don't hold much of what Brooks says with any weight. The Kaberle comment is laughable. I didn't read past that.

However the most important part of the interview;
"I think we have enough depth in the organization where if a move would make sense we would probably do that now."

Some of us who have been advocating the idea of adding additional pieces to a core we already have established are talking about what Sather mentioned; The fact that the organization has enough depth to explore. But no, let's stand Pat and not improve the club. A real rebuild explores through trade and signings as well. You just need the right balance. Relying on drafts alone will not work out.

So Sather wants to add 36 year old Jason Arnott? You really can't make this **** up.
I saw the Arnott comment and laughed. 2nd rounder? Please. a 5th rounder at best for him as a rental, and I can't see the Devils willing to help the Rangers.

I also can't see how Brad Richards is signing here unless 1) Drury retires 2) they trade Gaborik 3) redden retires. Only way that works is if he and Sather agree to a deal and then it is not announced til training camp and they send Redden back to Hartford. Or, he signs for $1MM and then gets a brown paper bag filled with cash under the table every month.

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I've always been impressed with the way he has expressed himself in his sporadic media interviews.... He always comes off sounding like a rational, patient, individual.... I don't know what goes through his head during FA signings where he starts shelling out tons of $$$$ and NTC/NMC's....

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That goes without saying... But Sather's job includes other responsibilities and duties outside FA signings... He has performed just fine in those other areas... He has managed the roster extremely well with regards to the young talent within the organization and has fared well in trades and not shipped out any significant youth that has come back to bite us.... People can criticize him all they want for those horrible FA contracts, and rightfully so, but they shouldn't ignore areas where he has done a good job with regards to his duties as a GM.
Depth player but Korpikoski would be a nice fit under torts given his speed and frame . I would have liked to have held on to him . But not like he would push us over the top but he would be a nice upgrade over some of the call ups or EC

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Arnott?

But, why . . . ?
52% in the faceoff circle.

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Depth player but Korpikoski would be a nice fit under torts given his speed and frame . I would have liked to have held on to him . But not like he would push us over the top but he would be a nice upgrade over some of the call ups or EC
He would've been a perfect fit on this team - plays every forward position, PK/PP/shootout, and his health has been steady.

Either way, Sather wasted an asset on a one year, one dimensional player.

BTW, where's our 'future compensation' for Jessiman?

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Talking about us being contenders, I think most people here would be extremely happy if this team made the ECF? Anyone disagree with that statement?

Philly last year was a 7 seed in the ECF, Edmonton and the team they faced were below the 5 seed in the WCF. Not to mention, this is all since the lockout. As long as the team makes the playoffs they have a shot because of the grinding style of play they have. Hank being hot in the playoffs based on the amount of rest he has gotten could help a lot too.

I believe our best match-up in the playoffs would be a Washington or Tampa Bay, since we should be able to expose their weak defense over the course of a 7 game series.

If Sather wants to improve the team, he needs to get a couple D for the 3rd line, or maybe a LHD to play along with Eminger/Gilroy.

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52% in the faceoff circle.



He would've been a perfect fit on this team - plays every forward position, PK/PP/shootout, and his health has been steady.

Either way, Sather wasted an asset on a one year, one dimensional player.

BTW, where's our 'future compensation' for Jessiman?
If the Rangers are going to go after someone who is good in the face-off circle and a "power-forward" type, I would recommend they seriously look at Paul Gaustad from Buffalo. The guy is an animal in the face-off circle, a great PKer and a very good veteran presence. Not sure he would be available but he would look GREAT with Boyle and Prust(Boyle on the wing) as the Rangers "shut-down" line.

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52% in the faceoff circle.
If we're trading for a faceoff specialist, Arnott wouldn't be a logical choice. I'd rather go after a 4th line type guy who wouldn't cost as much, like Steckel.

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He would've been a perfect fit on this team - plays every forward position, PK/PP/shootout, and his health has been steady.
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Either way, Sather wasted an asset on a one year, one dimensional player.
Who? Christensen?

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BTW, where's our 'future compensation' for Jessiman?
Radulov?

EDIT; Boyler, apparently Gaustad has been awful since the surgery he had. Too much of a risk, especially with that cap hit.


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I've always been impressed with the way he has expressed himself in his sporadic media interviews.... He always comes off sounding like a rational, patient, individual........


Look up the words smug, cocky, and 'delusions of grandeur'

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Talking about us being contenders, I think most people here would be extremely happy if this team made the ECF? Anyone disagree with that statement?

Philly last year was a 7 seed in the ECF, Edmonton and the team they faced were below the 5 seed in the WCF. Not to mention, this is all since the lockout. As long as the team makes the playoffs they have a shot because of the grinding style of play they have. Hank being hot in the playoffs based on the amount of rest he has gotten could help a lot too.

I believe our best match-up in the playoffs would be a Washington or Tampa Bay, since we should be able to expose their weak defense over the course of a 7 game series.

If Sather wants to improve the team, he needs to get a couple D for the 3rd line, or maybe a LHD to play along with Eminger/Gilroy.
I think we'd need more than Henke to be hot. Someone like Anisimov, Dubinsky, Callahan, etc would have to get really hot as well. If they are healthy I can see at least one(Dubi?) go on a nice playoff streak and make teams pay attention to someone other than Gabby.

I'm all for a playoff spot, these young guys need the playoff experience as leaders.

This team seems like a heartbreaker, see the 1986 Rangers

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http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.h...eOffPercentage

List of faceoff leaders.

Steckel and Reasoner could probably be had, I guess.

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Considering the Rangers have never completed a trade with the Devils, i'd have to agree.
Yep. Keep Arnott.

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He would've been a perfect fit if Stepan hadn't come along; a 20 year old who is outscoring him and costs about 3.5 mil less on the cap.
Not really comparable. Korpikoski would be playing in Fedotenko's role, not Stepan's.

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Not really comparable. Korpikoski would be playing in Fedotenko's role, not Stepan's.



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Ah, that makes more sense. I thought he was talking about Arnott. Excuse my tiredness.

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