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02-14-2011, 02:05 PM
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EDIT; Boyler, apparently Gaustad has been awful since the surgery he had. Too much of a risk, especially with that cap hit.
Gaustad has always been the same player. He is a gritty bottom-6 center with great size. I watched him quite a bit when I lived in Buffalo, even the beginning of this season. He would fit in well.

Konopka is another player I would definitely be interested in. The guy is a gamer and actually not a terrible player. Just another warrior who would fit in well with Prust and Boyle.

Those are the types of forwards I would look into. Hard-nosed, gritty center who excels in the face-off circle. I would even re-sign both of those players as I think Boyle needs to be moved to wing anyways and they will need a veteran center who can PK and take important face-offs.

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Konopka is an Islander, lol. We won't be getting him.

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Konopka is an Islander, lol. We won't be getting him.
Guerin was rumored to almost have become a Ranger a couple of years ago.

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Guerin was rumored to almost have become a Ranger a couple of years ago.
Who said that? Back in '09?

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Depth player but Korpikoski would be a nice fit under torts given his speed and frame . I would have liked to have held on to him . But not like he would push us over the top but he would be a nice upgrade over some of the call ups or EC
Torts got to coach him already so the idea of seeing what he could do under Torts isn't the reason to get him back. He's just a good young hockey player who showed signs of developing into a good player for us. That trade for Lisin is a major headscratcher.

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Torts got to coach him already so the idea of seeing what he could do under Torts isn't the reason to get him back. He's just a good young hockey player who showed signs of developing into a good player for us. That trade for Lisin is a major headscratcher.
No matter what the circumstance, the lack of return on our 1st round picks from 1991-2007 is unprecedented !

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Torts got to coach him already so the idea of seeing what he could do under Torts isn't the reason to get him back. He's just a good young hockey player who showed signs of developing into a good player for us. That trade for Lisin is a major headscratcher.
Not really. Korpikoski is a redundant player on this team. They dealt a surplus for a need. It didn't work out, but the thought was a good one.

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No matter what the circumstance, the lack of return on our 1st round picks from 1991-2007 is unprecedented !
And a large reason why it's astounding that Sather is still GM.

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Torts got to coach him already so the idea of seeing what he could do under Torts isn't the reason to get him back. He's just a good young hockey player who showed signs of developing into a good player for us. That trade for Lisin is a major headscratcher.
Remind me why we need more bottom six forwards

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Who said that? Back in '09?
Yeah, '09. He was sat out of a game and was apparently leaving when the deal fell through. In which case the Islanders tried to move him quickly and shipped him to Pitt for a very low return. The rumor was that he wasn't moving very far and the Rangers were known to be in the market for a winger for Gomez to play with. Guerin was having a good season and a proven playoff performer.

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Keep Korpikoski and maybe you get more than just the 14 useless points like we did out of Lisin.

And maybe we don't sign Frolov, the guy we wasted that 'Korpikoski money' on.

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Remind me why we need more bottom six forwards
I wasn't suggesting getting him back I was just commenting on deals Sather made on the trade front that didn't work out as well as others . Korpi is a younger version of what we have in Fedotenko I understand . At 24 with his speed and strength I believe he will continue to develop not top six but should be a 40 pt plus player . I

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Arnott>>EC overall

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The more and more I think about this, the more and more I'd like them to do nothing major on the 28th. F it, try and make it into the playoffs and do what you gotta do there and then make moves at the draft/offseason.

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I'm fine with the fwds the team has. They need a steady d-man and/or PP qb to keep up with the Joneses on a nightly basis.

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Konopka is an Islander, lol. We won't be getting him.
Hey we traded for Niemi from the Isles, so never say never... but we have Newbury in the minors who is basically the same player, will fight, physical, wins faceoffs, and takes stupid penalties. I don't see the reason to trade for him.

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I'm fine with the fwds the team has. They need a steady d-man and/or PP qb to keep up with the Joneses on a nightly basis.
Agreed, I really don't see the need to add anyone up front unless Dallas wants Gilroy, EC, Boogard, and Drury for Richards and this ain't NHL2K11 so thats not happening. The Flyers look nasty, if they could ever get a top tier goalie, anyway trade for a 3rd pairing d-man who can help the PP if such a player exists (Foster or Tyutin), maybe flip Gilroy or Eminger and call it a day. Sather is our GM, i don't see that happening.

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But those handful, like Gomez, Drury, and Redden, handcuffed us from taking the next step in free agency.
Because him dumping Gomez for McDonagh and signing Gaborik really prevented us from taking that step.

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And a large reason why it's astounding that Sather is still GM.
I would go with 97-2004. 2005 We got Marc Staal. 06 was a flop with Sanguenetti, 07 Cherepanov (nothing we can do there)

The drafting post lock out has been noticeably better especially in the first round.

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I would go with 97-2004. 2005 We got Marc Staal. 06 was a flop with Sanguenetti, 07 Cherepanov (nothing we can do there)

The drafting post lock out has been noticeably better especially in the first round.
The drafting post lockout in the first round has been okay. The 2nd round drafting has really been where they've done a much better job. Hell, yesterday there was 1 (Rangers) first round pick in the lineup and 4 2nd round picks.

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The drafting post lockout in the first round has been okay. The 2nd round drafting has really been where they've done a much better job. Hell, yesterday there was 1 (Rangers) first round pick in the lineup and 4 2nd round picks.
Well its too early to tell for Kreider and McIlrath however Cherepanov was all but a lock to make the squad. He was such a supremely talented player. Of course there is never any player who is 100% but with his talent and skill level the chances of him succeeding as a Ranger I feel would have been quite high.

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Keep Korpikoski and maybe you get more than just the 14 useless points like we did out of Lisin.

And maybe we don't sign Frolov, the guy we wasted that 'Korpikoski money' on.
please remember korp was threatening to run off to russia

he wanted out if he wasnt going to play and his minutes were uncertain at best.

its not like we traded away a guy that we were considering part of our core

this rewriting history stuff is tiresome

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Well its too early to tell for Kreider and McIlrath however Cherepanov was all but a lock to make the squad. He was such a supremely talented player. Of course there is never any player who is 100% but with his talent and skill level the chances of him succeeding as a Ranger I feel would have been quite high.
Yeah, but so was Stefan Cherneski. Sather has had Dan Blackburn, Hugh Jessiman, Al Montoya, Lauri Korpikoski, Mark Staal, Bobby Sanguinetti, Alexei Cherepanov, Michael DelZotto, Chris Kreider and Dylan McIlrath. Removing McIlrath and Kreider, 75% of Sather's first round picks haven't played for the Rangers to expectations. The jury is still out on DelZotto, although I'm not down on him. 2nd year is tough.

Compare that to Fedor Tyutin, Lee Falardeau, Ivan Baranka, Darin Olver, Dane Byers, Bruce Graham, Brandon Dubinsky, Mike Sauer, Marc Andre Cliche, Artem Anisimov, Antoine Lafleur, Derek Stepan, Ethan Werek and Christian Thomas. Removing Werek and Thomas, 66.67% of the second round picks haven't played in the NHL to expectations. The jury is still out on Sauer and Stepan at this point. That being said, in what world does it make sense that more of your second round picks succeed than your first?

I think I can answer this one: a world in which Glen Sather is more inclined to throw his weight behind a first round pick and use less muscle in regards to a second round pick.

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Arnott would be a HUGE mistake. Please, god, don't let him be a ranger.

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No matter what the circumstance, the lack of return on our 1st round picks from 1991-2007 is unprecedented !
Forget about first rounders, we should focus on the 7th round. It worked before

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