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02-14-2011, 02:47 PM
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Pouliot is such a waste on the 3rd or 4th lines imo.

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02-14-2011, 03:00 PM
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When I read "Pouliot is such a waste" I was like "wtf".

Then I saw the last bit and understood. Yes he is a waste being put on the 3rd and 4th lines unless of course they can make a 3rd scoring line, then he'd fit right in and then that line could be given more ice time.

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02-14-2011, 05:24 PM
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In the modern NHL, there will never be an injury-free "full healthy line up".

Maybe for two or three consecutive games, but that's it.

Look at the D... currently at 50% depletion...

Thankfully, Pleks is durable.

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02-14-2011, 06:57 PM
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If we're going to beat a team like Philly, Pleks is going to have to check their top line. That means we need a third line and powerplay that can score: Kovalev.

He's cheap and he's a playoff performer. Makes all the sense to me.

Also, you need a guy to be on the ice from the third line that can score. It's the only 15 minutes of non-4th line, non-Pronger time we'll get.

(Of course, they could always ignore AK and switch Pronger onto Kovy, which is what they'd probably do... but then that separates their top line from Pronger... but then, they have three dangerous lines... but then, so would we... but then, I'm thinking too much about this).


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02-16-2011, 12:28 AM
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02-16-2011, 03:48 AM
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Cammalleri-Plekanec-Kostitsyn
Pacioretty-Gomez-Gionta
Pouliot-Desharnais-Eller
Moen-Halpern-White
Darche/Pyatt

That's what I would do.
Agreed. and Darce and Pyatt can fight White for the last spot.

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02-16-2011, 03:52 AM
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What the heck does it look like? Where do you guys put Cammy? Does White stay up for the year? Does he Darche's place on Desharnais' line permanintely? Who gets sent down? We were trying to do lines at my place tonight and we all agreed that we all had no idea what it will be like. What's you guys take on it?
How bout imagining a full healthy lineup...


AKost-Plecks-Cammy
Patches-Gomez-Gio
Pouls-DD-Eller
Moen-Halpern-Darche/White/Pyatt

Markov-Subban
Hammer-Wiz
Gill-Gorges
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02-16-2011, 08:16 AM
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Kostitsyn-Plekanec-Cammalerri
Pacioretty-Desharnais-Gionta
Pouliot-Halpern-Darche
Moen-Gomez-White

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02-16-2011, 08:17 AM
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Pac - Pleks - Gio
Cammalleri - Gomez - Kostitsyn
Pouliot - Desharnais - White
Moen - Halpern - Pyatt/Darche

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02-16-2011, 07:32 PM
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Optimal Lines for February

Here's what I would do with the lines when Cammy is back and why...

1st Line. Cammaleri-Plekanec-Kostitsyn.

First, Cammaleri needs to get going, the sooner the better and Gomez is not the spark he needs... Second, if we are to trade AK46, we need to get him going if we are to get any value in return and he clearly has more chemistry with Plex. Furthermore, that line was simply amazing early on this year.

2nd Line. Pacciorety-Gomez-Gionta.

Gomez needs to get going, asap and #21 and #67 have great chemistry together. #11 did really good with these guys when Max Pac got called up. Also, more and more, I find Max to be more than just a PF... He is actually a more than decent playmaker which will take away some pressure on Gomez to feed the puck for everybody.

3rd Line. Pouliot-Desharnais-White.

Do I need to explain? Don't change something that is working... I know some will say I'm breaking up the 1st line, but it is not Like Plekanec can't get it done with just about anyone.

4th Line. Moen-Halpern-Darche.

Dump and chase... Hit the opposing defender relentlessly... Win FO's and battles along the boards... Etc. What a 4th line should do.

+++

Anyhow, I find it hard to imagine such a lineup couldn't get it done at both end of the ice... As for the PP, I had a few ideas.

21-11-67
76-20

Gomez has been pretty good on the PP this year and I think that giving him the first wave is a good way to get his confidence back.

58-14-52
68-13

The second one might seem a little crazy but I figured it could an interesting experiment... This would be more like an umbrella with Darche parked in the crease and Webber almost dead middle on the blue line. I find DD to be especially good at feeding the puck from left half board. Plex and Cammaleri could cycle the other half board if need be... The key to this is Webber and Cammy putting one timers on net while Darche screens.

Let me know what you think!
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02-17-2011, 07:15 AM
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02-17-2011, 09:12 AM
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Cammy-Pleks-AK
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Pools-DD-Darche
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Moen

Eller in Hamilton. Love his upside but he needs more confidence. Cunneyworth'll help him.

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02-17-2011, 02:26 PM
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I think we have too much depth on LW for our top 6:

Cammalleri
Pacioretty
Pouliot
Eller (projected as top6 LW)

In comparaison to our RW:
Gionta
Kostitsyn (natural position)

Moen, Darche, White, Pyatt can all flip sides. Still they are more efficient on these sides (based on general lineups from this season):
Moen - LW
Darche - RW
White - RW
Pyatt - LW

In the end we have a plethora of players able to patrol the LW. Am I right in thinking this is a problem to consider in our roster?

I think some will need to convert. I foresee:

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Pacioretty
Eller (?) - Gomez (?) - Gionta
Pouliot - Desharnais - White
Moen (?) - Halpern (?) - Darche
Pyatt

Now for the question marks...

Eller: Has all the required capabilities to be successful. Needs time, more confidence. Should this be done in the NHL? He reminds me of Sundin in his early years.

Gomez: Nothing against him, but this year he is a bust. I could even affirm that he is a liability to the team. Now getting value from his contribution. Nonetheless, we are better with him in the lineup than without, unless we can trade for a better centerman with more size.

Moen: We can keep. Essentially a good player, doesn't hurt the team, still I feel we are not getting the whole package of what he could be. 1 year remaining on the contrat at a limitly faire cap hit.

Halpern: Very servicable. Has been a stabilizing factor on the lineup. has experience, plays with an edge. I like all of what he brings, especially on the faceoff circle. But he is lacking the physicallity needed as a 4th line center for a team withing our division.

This brings me to consider:

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Pacioretty
Eller - [ ] - Gionta
Pouliot - Desharnais - White
Moen - [ ] - Darche
Pyatt

We need that physical 4th line center, moreso if Desharnais sticks in our roster next season.

The Gaustad rumors of him being available, if true, is a great opportunity.

Could we send AK for Gaustad and +?

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02-17-2011, 02:43 PM
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Pac - Pleks - Gio
Cammalleri - Gomez - Kostitsyn
Pouliot - Desharnais - White
Moen - Halpern - Pyatt/Darche
Pretty close to how I see it as well. No way I want Kostitsyn on Plekanec's line dragging it down. I want to see Pacioretty succeed as well, so no Gomez for him. The "bum" line will have to figure it out on their own.

Pacioretty - Plekanec - Gionta
Cammalleri - Gomez - Kostitsyn
Pouliot - Desharnais - Darche/White
Moen - Halpern - Darche/White

Extra: Pyatt

AHL: Eller

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Patches-Pleks-Gionta
Pouliot-Desharnais-Cammy
White-Gomer-AK
Moen-Halpern-Darche

Currently our best producers are Patches, Pleks, Gio, Chicken & Dezzy, add a Cammy and the top 6 looks pretty good.

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02-17-2011, 04:22 PM
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Pacioretty-Plekanec-Gionta
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If we're going to beat a team like Philly, Pleks is going to have to check their top line. That means we need a third line and powerplay that can score: Kovalev.

He's cheap and he's a playoff performer. Makes all the sense to me.

Also, you need a guy to be on the ice from the third line that can score. It's the only 15 minutes of non-4th line, non-Pronger time we'll get.

(Of course, they could always ignore AK and switch Pronger onto Kovy, which is what they'd probably do... but then that separates their top line from Pronger... but then, they have three dangerous lines... but then, so would we... but then, I'm thinking too much about this).
Who's their top line?? Is it the one with Richards, Briere, or Giroux? God I hate Philly's depth.

Anyways, bringing back Kovalev is definitely an interesting idea. Certain players simply get more space and "respect" on the the powerplay, because the opponent knows what the they're capable of. Markov's one of them, Cammelleri is one of them and Kovalev - with his deking/passing abilities (he's an underrated passer) and accurate shot - is still one of them.

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02-20-2011, 11:13 PM
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What "should" work? Top6 only.

We've got plenty of decent duos, but rarely ever a full working line.

Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cammalleri
Gionta - Plekanec - Pouliot

these guys should get 15-18 minutes per game

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Ya it's definitely time to try those lines again. With DD and Pouliot's new found chemistry, we should "in theory" have 3 effective lines. If they don't work then there are some serious problems.

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02-21-2011, 01:11 AM
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you knmow damn well the stars never align to allow for 3 lines to all be producing. one rises, the others are dead. that one simmers down, another one picks up. i've rarely seen everyone clicking. i know injuries and changes, but it never happens. we are always a one line team no matter what.

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you knmow damn well the stars never align to allow for 3 lines to all be producing. one rises, the others are dead. that one simmers down, another one picks up. i've rarely seen everyone clicking. i know injuries and changes, but it never happens. we are always a one line team no matter what.
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Get rid of Gomez and go with the following:

Pacioretty - Plekanec - Gionta
Pouliot - Desharnas - Cammalleri

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Kostitsyn - Plekanec - Gionta
Cammalleri - Gomez - Eller/Darche
Pacioretty - Desharnais - Pouliot
White/Darche - Halpern - Moen/Darche
Pyatt

Why? Kostitsyn is useless without Plekanec.
Why? Desharnais has chemistry with Patches & Pools.
Why? Cammalleri is better with Plekanec but hopefully can find a way to kickstart dumbass.

PS. Darche gets 1 of the 3 spots if healthy. He should be guaranteed a spot in the lineup in my mind. I just don't care which spot he gets.

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Pretty much this.

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