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02-15-2011, 12:16 AM
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Dubinsky's ceiling?

He always seems to miss a chunk of the season, but if he were to stay healthy, and play close to 82 games, where do you see his ceiling being in terms of goals, assists, and points? Is he a potential all-star?

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02-15-2011, 12:19 AM
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I see him becoming an 80 point player for a year or two and a couple of 60-75 point seasons.

I'm probably the only one that thinks that.

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I see him becoming an 80 point player for a year or two and a couple of 60-75 point seasons.

I'm probably the only one that thinks that.
I could see 80 out of a healthy Dubinsky as well. But I'd say he peaks for 3 or 4 years before it drops. He's still pretty young.

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I could see 80 out of a healthy Dubinsky as well. But I'd say he peaks for 3 or 4 years before it drops. He's still pretty young.
I'm not worried about the health part. Like you said, he's still young. At 24, he can hit 70 points this year. I don't think so, but he's going to have to reach gamebreaker status.

If he steadily improves for the next six seasons, who's to say he can't hit 90 one season?

It's possible because he's still young and showing quality amount of growth...Time will only tell.

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I think Dubi's puck possession game could lead to major points with two legitimate top line players.

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I think Dubinsky's ceiling tops out as a strong leader/two-way 70 point guy. However, if he ended up playing with elite linemates, like Richards + Gaborik, and played 82 games, I could see him being close to P/PG and hitting 80.

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To me, he's a 25-30 goal scorer, and 30-40 assists, so 55 to 70 points on average, but I could see him scoring as many as 90 points (let's say 35 and 55) if he plays with the right linemates (which Richards and Gaborik/Zuccarello could and will hopefully be)

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02-15-2011, 02:17 AM
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To me, he's a 25-30 goal scorer, and 30-40 assists, so 55 to 70 points on average, but I could see him scoring as many as 90 points (let's say 35 and 55) if he plays with the right linemates (which Richards and Gaborik/Zuccarello could and will hopefully be)
yea...zuccarello is nowhere near gaborik

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yea...zuccarello is nowhere near gaborik
... So much wrong with this post. Presumptuous posts like these really annoy me.

a) I didn't say he was close. I said I thought Dubinsky+Richards with either Gaborik or Zuccarello as the RWer would be a good line, chemistry-wise. Zuccarello is more of a playmaker, while Gaborik is more of a pure shooter/sniper when he's on his game. I think both are highly skilled, and both have a chance to be a lethal combination with Richards, and I think Dubinsky is the perfect first line winger for our team. He brings the right mix of grit, offensive ability, smart play-reading, and an effort that is only second to Callahan on 50/50 pucks and battles. He also protects the puck better than any Ranger and cannot be knocked off it when he wants it.

b) Zuccarello has a higher points per game average than Gaborik in this, his rookie season. Gaborik has had a pretty poor year, especially by his standards. Zuccarello has been a bright spot, for the most part.

c) Who will end up being better in their prime would be the only fair debate, and it's both impossible to know now, and completely irrelevant to a thread about how high Dubinsky's ceiling is.

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Would 60 + 70 = 130 pts be out of the question?

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More realistically I see Dubinsky as a 60-70 point player. He has size, grit, hits, fights occasionally, can play in all situations. Is a monster cycling the puck. He is going to have to play with legit 1st liners to get past that 60-70.

On the other hand MZA reminds me a bit of Claude Giroux. He's just getting his feet wet. I think he can become a real force on the team.

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More realistically I see Dubinsky as a 60-70 point player. He has size, grit, hits, fights occasionally, can play in all situations. Is a monster cycling the puck. He is going to have to play with legit 1st liners to get past that 60-70.

On the other hand MZA reminds me a bit of Claude Giroux. He's just getting his feet wet. I think he can become a real force on the team.
Good post. Dubinsky is a real good NHL player. I can see consistent 60-70 point seasons for awhile now. Home grown player who seems to thrive becoming a leader and a huge part of this franchise.

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If he can continuously score 60 without a great playmaker, he's a great 2nd liner/ if we get a great playmaker, 1st liner.

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60/70 points. I think the way he is playing now is near/at his ceiling. He just just needs to find consistency.

Of course, as with ANY player of that caliber, a PPG season or three isn't impossible with the right linemates.

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He's prob going to be 50-60 every year but he's been on prolonged stretches where he plays like an 80 pt player. he's never shown he can do it consistently enough tos core that much and he gets hurt it seems.

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