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02-15-2011, 10:11 AM
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i remember him in camp, he impressed me. Solid, calm, smart Dman, he scored a goal too. He had a good camp, he should help out the D core for the time being.

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All the bashing on Picard is so dumb. The guy is above average if he doesn't have to chew up huge minutes. Nash isn't likely going to be able to step in and chew up huge minutes either.

Since returning the line-up, Picard has 1PTS and is a +2 in 4-games. Don't see how thats bad.

Anyway, sucks to see Spacek go. I'm one of the few who likes him around here I think. But I loved Nash in the pre-season and the few Bulldogs games I've seen.
It's not dumb because he's the kind of D we do NOT want in Montreal. He has no role whatsoever, he doesn't play on the pp, he's not a good puck-moving defensmens, he's terrible defensively and doesn't hit. Atleast with Gill and Spacek we get D's that arre really good in his own zone.

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02-15-2011, 10:13 AM
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Proof that Carle's window is closed in Montreal, really.

I'm sure it's just insurance. There is no way Montreal trades a D without getting one back, but I could see them wanting extra healthy bodies (Darche is back so that's 13F and Nash makes 7D) around the deadline.

Sometimes teams make trades and need to play one game short, so this is just good insurance.

To me, Nash and Klubertanz have passed Carle on the depth chart. Nash seems to be more defensively responsible though and given Subban and Weber are already up, Klubertanz would be a bridge too far.

Realistically though, Nash represents 10th on Montreal's ideal depth chart. If Carle cannot get called up with that many regulars out, his days in the organization are over.
Although Nash has apparently had a solid year AHL, it doesn't necessarily mean he is ahead of Carle, Henry and Festerling.

They have a 3 game trip coming up out West plus Spacek is apparently banged up so they need an extra body around in case one or both of Gill and Spacek can't go. Also, Henry, Carle and Festerling are all waiver eligible so the Habs probably don't want to risk losing one to an injury call up for a week.

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02-15-2011, 10:14 AM
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so why did we trade O'byrne? lol

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02-15-2011, 10:15 AM
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Lets try this time not to the throw the guy under the bus before we all seen him play, like most of us do everytime we aqcuire or call up someone. For once people,

''chill out''-Carey Price.


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02-15-2011, 10:16 AM
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so why did we trade O'byrne? lol
For some reason I don't think the team expected to have Markov and Gorges out for the season and Gill fighting injuries

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02-15-2011, 10:17 AM
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It's not dumb because he's the kind of D we do NOT want in Montreal. He has no role whatsoever, he doesn't play on the pp, he's not a good puck-moving defensmens, he's terrible defensively and doesn't hit. Atleast with Gill and Spacek we get D's that arre really good in his own zone.
That's Spacek.

Picard has 2 powerplay goals. I believe only Subban has more from the backend.

Picard has 42 hits in 35 games. He averages more hits than:

Hamrlik.
Spacek
Gill
Weber.

And then a bunch of the forwards.

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02-15-2011, 10:18 AM
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Didn't expect this. Figured carle would be next.
I thought that too

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02-15-2011, 10:19 AM
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All the bashing on Picard is so dumb. The guy is above average if he doesn't have to chew up huge minutes. Nash isn't likely going to be able to step in and chew up huge minutes either.

Since returning the line-up, Picard has 1PTS and is a +2 in 4-games. Don't see how thats bad.

Anyway, sucks to see Spacek go. I'm one of the few who likes him around here I think. But I loved Nash in the pre-season and the few Bulldogs games I've seen.
Picard struggled even with 15-17 minutes before Weber took his spot and we added Wisniewski in late December.

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02-15-2011, 10:19 AM
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Picard ain't as bad ad people make him to be, i don't realy like him but i don't hate either, to me he is not part of a contending D though.

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A buddy of mine is a season ticket holder in Hamilton and states that Nash has been there best overall D-Man...be interesting to see what he can do up here...and he has good size too.

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It's not dumb because he's the kind of D we do NOT want in Montreal. He has no role whatsoever, he doesn't play on the pp, he's not a good puck-moving defensmens, he's terrible defensively and doesn't hit. Atleast with Gill and Spacek we get D's that arre really good in his own zone.
Do you even pay attention to what you write? Alex Picard has no role?

His role is to be 7th defensman...he's the extra guy who steps in when there are injuries, THAT'S his role. He's not there to play 25 mins a game, or be the PP QB, or play against the oppositions top line...

I really don't get why he gets so much flak...for a guy who sits more often than he plays, Picard has been a revelation if you ask me. He does his job of filling in, I don't know why you guys expect a 7th dman to come in and perform like an all star...

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ANybody heard anything of a Spacek injury?

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02-15-2011, 10:23 AM
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For some reason I don't think the team expected to have Markov and Gorges out for the season and Gill fighting injuries
Well, for Coolasprice, hindsight is 20/20: the O'Byrne trade was therefore stupid.

I remember very well one thing said, 1 day before Markov got injured again:

"If you look at our lineup.. Markov, Georges, Subban, Hamrlik, Weber, Gill, Spacek, Picard.. we have a terrifying line-up"

Now we have Wis too.

It was tempting fate. Did we EVER had such a position-riddled injury before? I mean, injuries focusing entirely on our Ds?!

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Picard ain't as bad ad people make him to be, i don't realy like him but i don't hate either, to me he is not part of a contending D though.
With Markov and Gorges out all year and Hamr, Spacek and Gill all being in their mid-late 30's we need our 3rd pairing D to log around 18 minutes a game, something that Picard just can't do effectively. He was solid at the beginning of the year playing 14-15 minutes however but if we are going to make a run in the playoffs we can't have a guy like Picard playing in the lineup.

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Picard struggled even with 15-17 minutes before Weber took his spot and we added Wisniewski in late December.
He's not a regular NHL dman...he's a 7th dman who steps in when there are injuries. He's there to bail the team out, he's cheap, has experience and doesn't make too many glaring mistakes

What else do you expect out of a reserve defensman???

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02-15-2011, 10:24 AM
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Big fan of Nash so happy to see him get a shot, but gotta wonder what's up. Is Spacek really hurt or sick? Is something brewing?

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Cool, excited to see Nash. He's had a good year so far.

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Big fan of Nash so happy to see him get a shot, but gotta wonder what's up. Is Spacek really hurt or sick? Is something brewing?
Spacek for Clarkson, AK for Kaberle. Pretty obvious.

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All the bashing on Picard is so dumb. The guy is above average if he doesn't have to chew up huge minutes. Nash isn't likely going to be able to step in and chew up huge minutes either.

Since returning the line-up, Picard has 1PTS and is a +2 in 4-games. Don't see how thats bad.

Anyway, sucks to see Spacek go. I'm one of the few who likes him around here I think. But I loved Nash in the pre-season and the few Bulldogs games I've seen.
What do you mean? Where is Spacek going?

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It could be just a precaution with the team being outwest it might be best to have a 7th defender with the team just in case of injury rather then trying to call people up before s game by flying from hamilton ya know?

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The Habs are starting to really contend with Vancouver for the most injuries on D award.

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The Habs are starting to really contend with Vancouver for the most injuries on D award.
If Spacek is out :

Markov, Gorges, Gill and Spacek. And we didn't have Van's depth to start with, though Markov is a wrost loss than any of their ds.

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Spacek has a lower body injury as per MAG

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If Spacek doesn't play, we'll be playing with only 2 regulars on defense.

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