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02-15-2011, 02:22 AM
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Fleischmann

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Semin is 26. Laich is 27. Fehr is 25. Marcus Johansson is 20. Fleischmann is 26. Steckel is 28. Their goalies are babies. All of their core is well, well under 30. They have literally one old player, Mike Knuble. They're something like the 8th-youngest team in the league.
Fleischmann is in Colorado(and out of season)

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02-15-2011, 05:10 AM
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I hope we keep the pick. I like lots of picks. More chances to get a core player.

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02-15-2011, 07:54 AM
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I hope we keep the pick. I like lots of picks. More chances to get a core player.
lets say they use it on Kaberle, he likes NY, we don't sign Richards cause he resigns in Dallas and because of that there is no #1 C on the FA market.

Well I sign Kaberle and atleast make us strong for years to come in G and D.

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02-15-2011, 08:12 AM
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Everyone tends to ignore this when making proposals they just want to give up the extra one which is Washington's ignoring the fact that it is less valuable than ours.
I don't think that anyone ignores that, I just think that we'd prefer to keep the better of the 2 picks.

If I am negotiating a trade, the initial offer is going to be a 3rd rounder, if I have to negotiate a 2nd into the package, then it's going to be the later 2nd rounder and so on.

The Caps have a better team and thus we would have the better 2nd rounder.

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02-15-2011, 09:53 AM
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On another note, I see no reason to trade the pick. Use both picks on young players. I can't see the Rangers using a second round pick to acquire a player simply because that player won't be someone who can make a difference not just this year, but for years to come. That is unless it's part of a blockbuster deal which could be even worse.
This.

We are still in building mode. Do not trade any young asset (player or pick) for anything older. Let's not regress...AGAIN.

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02-15-2011, 10:21 AM
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Some recent second round picks:
Christian Thomas
Ethan Werek
Derek Stepan
Artem Anisimov
Mike Sauer
Brandon Dubinsky

Of course there are also some busts littered through there.

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02-15-2011, 10:32 AM
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Some recent second round picks:
Christian Thomas
Ethan Werek
Derek Stepan
Artem Anisimov
Mike Sauer
Brandon Dubinsky

Of course there are also some busts littered through there.
The bottom line is the more draft picks, the better. When Dubinsky was picked 59th overall he was actually the SIXTH Ranger pick of that draft. The five guys drafted by the Rangers before Dubinsky that year included Korpikoski, Byers, and others you may not have heard of.

Sounds like some people can't wait to trade this draft pick for something of immediate value. Recipe for failure.

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02-15-2011, 10:36 AM
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This.

We are still in building mode. Do not trade any young asset (player or pick) for anything older. Let's not regress...AGAIN.
Some people are unaware of how great it is for a young core to experience success in the playoffs. Why not bring in a rental to help that happen? Doing that is FAR from regressing.

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02-15-2011, 11:48 AM
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I'd like to see us hold onto the Caps pick. at the rate they're starting to free-fall, that pick may end up being more valuable than ours in the 2nd round. Washington seems to be a completely different team this year. Only on rare occasions have I seen Ovechkin go full tilt like we're used to seeing. Something is not right in Washington.

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02-15-2011, 04:37 PM
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Some people are unaware of how great it is for a young core to experience success in the playoffs. Why not bring in a rental to help that happen? Doing that is FAR from regressing.
...and some people would like Sather to attempt to build a team that annually contends for the Stanley Cup, as opposed to a team that annually contends for one of the last playoff spots.

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02-17-2011, 01:42 PM
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JUST STOPPPED IN TO SEE WHATS UP. Thank you EVERYONE. It was really bugging me not understanding the "hype" around the pick.

The "hype" I am talking about is every ranger proposal has WASHINGTONS 2ND ROUNDER in their like if that was God's handkerchief of something!

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02-17-2011, 06:45 PM
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I'd also add that if you want to make an offer sheet, you'll most likely need YOUR 2nd RDP so trading the one we got from Washington gives you more flexibility in that regard.

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02-17-2011, 07:15 PM
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Wouldnt be upset if we traded it for a vet defenseman, wouldnt be upset if we kept it.

Whatever

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02-18-2011, 01:42 AM
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I'd also add that if you want to make an offer sheet, you'll most likely need YOUR 2nd RDP so trading the one we got from Washington gives you more flexibility in that regard.
It's mandatory. If you don't have your own pick you can't make an offer sheet involving that pick.

Fleischmann is also seriously ill, he might die from that condition, let alone play hockey again. Really is a terrible situation. He was fitting in great with his new team on a contract year, then that happens.

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02-18-2011, 09:17 AM
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It's mandatory. If you don't have your own pick you can't make an offer sheet involving that pick.

Fleischmann is also seriously ill, he might die from that condition, let alone play hockey again. Really is a terrible situation. He was fitting in great with his new team on a contract year, then that happens.
Well, it depends what kind of offer sheet you sign the player to:

Current Averaged Salary[1] Draft Pick Compensation
$1,020,348 and below No compensation
$1,020,348 to $1,545,981 Third-round pick
$1,545,981 to $3,091,963 Second-round pick
$3,091,963 to $4,637,944 First- and third-round pick
$4,637,944 to $6,183,925 First-, second-, and third-round pick
$6,183,925 to $7,729,907 Two first-round picks and a second- and third-round pick
$7,729,907 and above Four first-round picks

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02-18-2011, 10:27 AM
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Seems like Kaberle is off the market (or is minutes from allegedly)

So, McCabe for Wash' Second? (See I am catching on too.. I didnt add OUR second, I threw the Wash second in there. You see? You see how I did that? Slick right? I got the making's yo!

lol

All seriousness, I am NOT USED TO THE RANGERS BEING SO SLOW AT THIS POINT IN TIME and even Free Agency, it is EERY but understandable.

I, myself am a trade JUNKIE. I just LOVE making trades for the sake of trades. I would jumble the whole team up for the entire year just to retumble them again and have the same team I started with at the begining of the season lol!

Yeah, THATS HOW CRAZY I am over trades!

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02-19-2011, 12:48 AM
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blah, sather not parting with it for brewer or white

what sucks is he's due to draft an antoine lafleur again

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