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02-15-2011, 11:04 AM
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With Dubinsky going to earn 4+ mil.

Callahan potentially 3+ mil.

Anisimov, Sauer, and Boyle due raises.

How are we going to fit Kaberle and still go after Richards?

Kaberle makes no sense.

Just keep the assets and make a deal at the draft for Richards rights and get him locked up.

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02-15-2011, 11:06 AM
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With Dubinsky going to earn 4+ mil.

Callahan potentially 3+ mil.

Anisimov, Sauer, and Boyle due raises.

How are we going to fit Kaberle and still go after Richards?

Kaberle makes no sense.

Just keep the assets and make a deal at the draft for Richards rights and get him locked up.
Pretty much. Stay the course.

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02-15-2011, 11:12 AM
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With Dubinsky going to earn 4+ mil.

Callahan potentially 3+ mil.

Anisimov, Sauer, and Boyle due raises.

How are we going to fit Kaberle and still go after Richards?

Kaberle makes no sense.

Just keep the assets and make a deal at the draft for Richards rights and get him locked up.
then either probably anisimov or boyle will have to go

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02-15-2011, 11:13 AM
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It could be Kabs but a second rounder would not do it. It would take a first rounder plus a mid level prospect or player right now. Just look at what they got for Versteeg and since i live in T.O i kno the asking price will be even higher.
Versteeg is 8 years younger than Kaberle and still has another year left on his contract. It's a completely different situation. No one is giving up a 1st rounder for Kaberle. And Sather has already said he's not going to trade anything of significant value for a rental. If a 2nd isn't enough to get it done, then the leafs can keep him and let him walk in the summer for nothing.

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02-15-2011, 11:22 AM
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then either probably anisimov or boyle will have to go

If they need to move guys to make room then Avery, Boyle, Christensen, and maybe Wolski should be the first to go.

There's no way they should move:

Dubinsky
Callahan
Anisimov
Stepan
Staal
Girardi
Sauer
McDonagh
Lundqvist

They should be here long term.

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02-15-2011, 11:29 AM
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Still not seeing the light on Kaberle. We are not built for a run in the PO's. We can't even ice a 1st line. To give up a 2nd rounder for a 2 month rental is too much, regardless of the benefits. It doesn't change the fact that we are not close to a cup. We have no need to sign Kaberle at years end at over 4M/yr when there is a shot at getting Richards. Rentals I feel are not warranted for this club and a rental(offensive defenseman) will not change the outcome of the PO picture, if there is one. I still got to go with the draft-even if it is weaker, so they say.
we are not getting Richards that is a pipe dream and just like Kovalchuk, it will not happen

edit: supersonic monkey has a point the only way we get Richards is if we trade for his rights and that won't be cheap

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we are not getting Richards that is a pipe dream and just like Kovalchuk, it will not happen

edit: supersonic monkey has a point the only way we get Richards is if we trade for his rights and that won't be cheap

why do guys like Bob MacKenzie feel that Richards will end up a Ranger then?

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There are ways of signing Richards w/o moving half the roster. I'm still not convinced we should, but it is very possible. Numerous guys here have taken the time and made it work financially without flipping the roster upside/down.

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And I wouldn't move any of our picks, or prospects for a rental. Especially if it's a rental we won't be re-signing.

Keep our 1st. Keep our two 2nds. I wouldn't mind it if Sather blew all three of these picks on a young player that can grow with our core, but that scenario seems very unlikely.

Some of you guys need to get out of the "now" mentality. A 2nd rounder is a pretty valuable pick.

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we are not getting Richards that is a pipe dream and just like Kovalchuk, it will not happen

edit: supersonic monkey has a point the only way we get Richards is if we trade for his rights and that won't be cheap


Not if they trade for his rights at the draft. That will probably only cost a 3rd.

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Signing Richards will likely make one of Anisimov or Boyle available on the trade market. I agree with the need for a PP QB, but if you add Richards to the fold, he can take over that role. What the need becomes then is a threat to shoot from the point.

Boyle / Anisimov + a second-tier D could be the foundation to finally go after another top-pairing d-man who can move the puck.

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Signing Richards will likely make one of Anisimov or Boyle available on the trade market. I agree with the need for a PP QB, but if you add Richards to the fold, he can take over that role. What the need becomes then is a threat to shoot from the point.

Boyle / Anisimov + a second-tier D could be the foundation to finally go after another top-pairing d-man who can move the puck.
As much as it pains me to say, if it comes to that, you absolutely move Boyle.

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Signing Richards will likely make one of Anisimov or Boyle available on the trade market. I agree with the need for a PP QB, but if you add Richards to the fold, he can take over that role. What the need becomes then is a threat to shoot from the point.

Boyle / Anisimov + a second-tier D could be the foundation to finally go after another top-pairing d-man who can move the puck.
Would Brent Seabrook qualify in your mind?

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We can do a couple things;

1. Play Boyle at 4th line center for depth
2. Move Boyle to left wing

If we sign Richards, we dont necessarily have to move a center, if we stack up like so...

Wolski-Richards-Gaborik
Dubi-Stepan-Callahan (All American line)
Boyle-Anisimov-Zuccarello (Biggie Smalls line)
Avery-Werek/EC-Prust

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We can do a couple things;

1. Play Boyle at 4th line center for depth
2. Move Boyle to left wing

If we sign Richards, we dont necessarily have to move a center, if we stack up like so...

Wolski-Richards-Gaborik
Dubi-Stepan-Callahan (All American line)
Boyle-Anisimov-Zuccarello (Biggie Smalls line)
Avery-Werek/EC-Prust
I hear music playing.

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Signing Richards will likely make one of Anisimov or Boyle available on the trade market. I agree with the need for a PP QB, but if you add Richards to the fold, he can take over that role. What the need becomes then is a threat to shoot from the point.

Boyle / Anisimov + a second-tier D could be the foundation to finally go after another top-pairing d-man who can move the puck.
I think Burke is making all of these moves to try and sign Richards. I don't think the Rangers will have the $ to compete with the Leafs.

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We can do a couple things;

1. Play Boyle at 4th line center for depth
2. Move Boyle to left wing

If we sign Richards, we dont necessarily have to move a center, if we stack up like so...

Wolski-Richards-Gaborik
Dubi-Stepan-Callahan (All American line)
Boyle-Anisimov-Zuccarello (Biggie Smalls line)
Avery-Werek/EC-Prust
There's a lineup I'd love to see.

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As much as it pains me to say, if it comes to that, you absolutely move Boyle.
That would be my first reaction as well. However, would it behoove us to give up the guy who perhaps has higher potential, if we can get more out of the deal in return? I think Anisimov's value would be much greater around the league, and it ultimately comes down to just how much of an upgrade we want on the 3rd pairing.

Now, let me qualify that by saying this: I personally think we need a top-pairing puck mover to play with Staal. However, the organization is very high on Girardi, and they may not feel the same way.

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Would Brent Seabrook qualify in your mind?
Really like Seabrook, but I'd like to see us go after a guy with more offensive instincts.

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I think Burke is making all of these moves to try and sign Richards. I don't think the Rangers will have the $ to compete with the Leafs.
But why would Richards want to go there?

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But why would Richards want to go there?
I remember hearing that Richards wanted to go to Toronto.

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I think Burke is making all of these moves to try and sign Richards. I don't think the Rangers will have the $ to compete with the Leafs.
Question is: Does Richards really want to spend the rest of his career in that circus while Burke tries to put a competitive team together, or does he want to come to NY where the team is very close to being able to compete -- and likely do so the rest of his career -- and there is a coach behind the bench he's very close with?

Seems like a no-brainer, but I guess stranger things have happened. I don't think it'll necessarily be about the money with Richards. I think our real competition will be Dallas.

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we are not getting Richards that is a pipe dream and just like Kovalchuk, it will not happen

edit: supersonic monkey has a point the only way we get Richards is if we trade for his rights and that won't be cheap

Day one at the Draft in June.

To Dallas:
•2011 1st
•Conditional 2012 1st*
•Werek

To NY Rangers:
•Richards
•Conditional 2012 2nd*

*Condition: Richards signs.

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But why would Richards want to go there?
Well the Leafs are a franchise with plenty of $$, so as long as they have the cap space they'll be able to throw a lot at him. Thats really the only reason I can think of. The Rangers are much closer to being a contender than the Leafs.

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Day one at the Draft in June.

To Dallas:
•2011 1st
•Conditional 2012 1st*
•Werek

To NY Rangers:
•Richards
•Conditional 2012 2nd*

*Condition: Richards signs.
God I hope that doesn't happen. What an awful idea.

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02-15-2011, 12:27 PM
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Day one at the Draft in June.

To Dallas:
•2011 1st
•Conditional 2012 1st*
•Werek

To NY Rangers:
•Richards
•Conditional 2012 2nd*

*Condition: Richards signs.
This isnt stupid at all.

Let's trade potentially 2 1st round picks just so we can have the negotiating rights to richards for a mere week. Not to mention were throwing werek who is a pretty good prospect and has been progressing.

Do we think before we post on these boards?

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