Just to branch away from the overwhelming trade speculation stuff, I thought this would be a nice way to pimp our organization. I was gonna do a top 25 trade value list but I seem to take contracts into consideration way more than others and that debate would just lead to mass hysteria. Also with individual team's top 20 lists coming out this is an appropriate time for such a list.
So here it goes...
1. Nino Niedereiter - NYI
2. Derek Stepan - NYR
3. Chris Kreider - NYR
4. Travis Hamonic - NYI
5. Ryan McDonagh - NYR
6. Sergei Babrovsky - PHI
7. Jacob Josefsen - NJD
8. Mike Sauer - NYR
9. Dylan McIlrath - NYR
10. Mattias Tedenby - NJD
11. Mats Zuccarello - NYR
12. Calvin de Haan - NYI
13. John Merrill - NJD
14. Christian Thomas - NYR
15. Eric Tangradi - PIT
16. Ethan Werek - NYR
17. Beau Bennett - PIT
18. Evgeni Grachev - NYR
19. Alexander Urbom - NJD
20. Simone Depres - PIT
Tedenby + Merrill > McIlrath, and I'd also take Stepan over Nino in a snap.
Otherwise, not bad.
I wouldn't trade Stepan for Nino either but I think that Step has a significantly lower ceiling due to his skating and strength. Both will improve but will become average at best most likely. Nino is a surefire NHLer who also has the potential to be one of the top players in the league. And I didn't even want to draft him because he was overhyped for having a cool name.
Tedenby + Merrill > McIlrath, and I'd also take Stepan over Nino in a snap.
Otherwise, not bad.
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I wouldn't trade Stepan for Nino either but I think that Step has a significantly lower ceiling due to his skating and strength. Both will improve but will become average at best most likely. Nino is a surefire NHLer who also has the potential to be one of the top players in the league. And I didn't even want to draft him because he was overhyped for having a cool name.
In my opinion, Stepan is already an average NHLer. 32 points in 58 games and +1. Granted, stats don't tell the whole story, thats pretty good.
I don't think its possible for him to improve and end up average. He's average now - if he improves he's going to be very good.
Last edited by haveandare: 02-15-2011 at 04:31 PM.
This list prompted me to look at some league-wide prospect lists that are a little...ahem...less biased. What jumps out at you is that the Atlantic Division as a whole is well below average on league-wide lists.
This list prompted me to look at some league-wide prospect lists that are a little...ahem...less biased. What jumps out at you is that the Atlantic Division as a whole is well below average on league-wide lists.
Yeah on first glance, but when you realize that most of our division has excellent youth that JUST graduated and are already playing with their big clubs you see its not that bad.
Yeah on first glance, but when you realize that most of our division has excellent youth that JUST graduated and are already playing with their big clubs you see its not that bad.
If you look at the rookie goal scoring leaders, 5 of the top 30 are from the Atlantic division. That's exactly 1/6, so apparently other divisions have also JUST graduated a lot of players...we just don't seem them as often.
If you look at the rookie goal scoring leaders, 5 of the top 30 are from the Atlantic division. That's exactly 1/6, so apparently other divisions have also JUST graduated a lot of players...we just don't seem them as often.
Rookie goal scoring is just part of the picture. The young talent in the Atlantic been playing more than just one year. Just graduated means in the last few years, they are still young, but not just 'prospects' anymore.
If your point is the division has weak young prospects that's only because they've graduated into NHL'ers. Our division holds some of the youngest players in the league, and definitely some of the best.
Rookie goal scoring is just part of the picture. The young talent in the Atlantic been playing more than just one year. Just graduated means in the last few years, they are still young, but not just 'prospects' anymore.
If your point is the division has weak young prospects that's only because they've graduated into NHL'ers. Our division holds some of the youngest players in the league, and definitely some of the best.
In a division that holds Sidney Crosby, Marc and Jordan Staal, Ryan Callahan, Claude Giroux, Brandon Dubinsky, Tavares, etc, etc, and of course guys who are still prospects like Step and Tedenby, I'd have to say we're one of the better divisions featuring up and coming young talent.
Then again, I'd wager most divisions are pretty close when it comes to having good youth talent.
Stepan>nino
Grachev>>>>>werek
Bob at#3 behind step and nino
This list is also very biased towards ranger players IMO, it's expected but our upper esch of prospects aren't well ahead of the rest of the atlantic.
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