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#56: Flyers @ Lightning - Tuesday, Feb. 15, 2011

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Huge win tonight. My only fear is that we'll now get rid of Zherdev. Come playoff time, Zherdev will be far more important than Shelley.

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There is two reasons I don't have the Lightning as a contender:
1) Their goal differential is kind of a joke when compared to their position in the standings.
2) Their position in the standings has a whole lot to do with them taking advantage of the points system as it is right now. 19 of their 57 games (a full 3rd) have gone either to OT or SO. And while it is admirable that you can get points out of losses or win it in extra time, it also means that they've been bleeding a lot of points to other teams and given other teams the opportunity to win. This could very well bite them in the ass in the playoffs.

The game tonight only showed why we don't necessarily have to be afraid of them.

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Bruins-Senators' trade. Chris Kelly for a #2.

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Bruins-Senators' trade. Chris Kelly for a #2.
Wow, Ottawa is getting some solid assets for their pieces. They're really loading up on draft picks.

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What kind of defending system does Tampa use? It's kind of strange to see.

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Bruins-Senators' trade. Chris Kelly for a #2.
Meh.

Do the Bruins even really need Kelly?

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What kind of defending system does Tampa use? It's kind of strange to see.
Didn't you hear Bill Clement? Seaweed.

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Didn't you hear Bill Clement? Seaweed.
No lol, sorry.

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We need to brutalize the Panthers tomorrow night.

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What kind of defending system does Tampa use? It's kind of strange to see.
they use a 1-3-1 which is a trap like system... its clogs the neutral zone up, and takes alot of patience, and is meant to be a counter punch type style.... it usually makes for a boring game

What I am almost sure of is if we met up with them in a playoff series lavy would employ some sort of strategy to beat this specifically.... regular season is a little different.

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Meh.

Do the Bruins even really need Kelly?
Brian Burke said earlier in the evening that he was talking to Boston's GM. Maybe there's another move on the horizon.

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Meh.

Do the Bruins even really need Kelly?
Yeah they kind of do. Seguin from what I've seen isn't really NHL ready I think. Certainly not playoff ready.

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What kind of defending system does Tampa use? It's kind of strange to see.
1-3-1 trap mostly. We probably could have sat with the puck nehind the net the entire game if we wanted to.

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they use a 1-3-1 which is a trap like system... its clogs the neutral zone up, and takes alot of patience, and is meant to be a counter punch type style.... it usually makes for a boring game

What I am almost sure of is if we met up with them in a playoff series lavy would employ some sort of strategy to beat this specifically.... regular season is a little different.
I knew they were playing some sort of trap game. Lavi likes to switch systems up. They said when we played Chicago we played a new system that had all of Chicago confused. Not to mention, Lavi likes his left wing lock. Which he ran a lot in the Montreal series IIRC.

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I noticed that by the end of the game we were doing a much better jjob getting intot heir zone. I imagine Lavi was making some coaching adjustments.

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yeah we were more or less dominating for a while at the end of the game, just couldn't put the puck in the damned net

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We definitely had a tactic to counter their anti-hockey system. Clement pointed it out a few times in the commentary, just use speed to get behind them.

We actually held Stamkos pointless and to only 3 shots. Well played boys.

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Well, dump and chase could kill the 1-3-1 if done correctly. Not to mention, their defense is pretty terrible.

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I recall on one entry Briere or Giroux skated in as three other players basically blocked for him. That was neat.

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Solid win. Versteeg didn't seem to factor in from what I could tell, but I'm sure it will take a few games and practices to get his juices going on this team.

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What kind of defending system does Tampa use? It's kind of strange to see.
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they use a 1-3-1 which is a trap like system... its clogs the neutral zone up, and takes alot of patience, and is meant to be a counter punch type style.... it usually makes for a boring game

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1-3-1 trap mostly. We probably could have sat with the puck nehind the net the entire game if we wanted to.
Kind of, but it depends on who we play and how recent. It was pretty obvious Philly saw video from our last tilt with Washington because the previous two meetings with them, we let them come at us. They tried to flip the puck over the forwards and the far defenseman into the opposing corner and try to overload that corner to set up in the zone, sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. The most recent game, Washington let us come at them and tried to pick us apart in the neutral zone which sort of worked.

It was interesting to see Philly do it, because they approached it differently. They forced the top guy to attack but swept a forward under almost like a reverse in a football game and tried to get that to force two of the middle pairing over and potentially the lone defenseman in back to the boards to overload that side and hopefully leave 1-2 guys, ideally a forward and a defenseman to create a mismatch at the blueline and try to spread out from there. It worked a couple of times and we couldn't clear the zone for the life of us, but we're really lucky we have some quick forwards on the bottom six to block shots and get back into position.

I expected Philly to run more of a spread tonight to see how they could fine tune things against us, but they never did. Kind of surprising. There is no doubt you guys are a much deeper team than us but we're absolute ******** at clogging the lanes and wreaking havoc in most places people would take shots. At the same time, you guys did enough defensively that we never got comfortable setting up, our point men never started to slide into the zone instead of along the blueline, and we couldn't complete a pass for the life of ourselves for the first half of the game.

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