Kreider needs another year in College. But Sather wants him bad. I say don't rush him or you can have another MDZ on your hands
I agree, College or the A are fine with me, no reason to promise this kid a lineup spot on the Rangers to get him to turn pro though, nothing wrong with a little more seasoning against better competition.
I watch him play almost every home game and I was in attendance for both beanpot games. He's not ready yet. He definitely needs work on his stick handling. He also needs to bulk up a bit. Lately he's been able to body up better against opposing players however earlier on in the season he seemed kind of content with not being physical. If there is one thing about Torts, it's that he wants all of his players to be physical on the forecheck. Also, Kreider disappears at times. Some games he's very noticeable, some games he's invisible. I don't know if it's due to a lack of effort on occasion or what, but it happens. He needs to work on his consistency if he wants to be successful in the NHL.
Aside from that, he will be a great addition alongside Gaborik, as he can match his speed, and also on the penalty kill.
For my sake I hope he stays in BC next year. I don't think he'll make the NHL and having him play in the AHL instead of here at BC would suck. We'd lose a top player, the Rangers wouldn't even be using him, i'd just be disappointed.
We have a few seniors coming off so maybe that will help the cause for those who want him to come out of college (at least I know that the starting goalie is a sr and the back up is just disgraceful). If he does, I do not believe that he'll make the team out of camp next year. He's an incredible talent though.
Isn't he at 220 already? Which if true, is incredible at that age. I read he trains like a man possessed.
Comparing defensive prospects to offensive prospects is apples and oranges. The question with him is what more can he learn playing college hockey. If his development would be better suited by turning pro, then let's do it. I know very little with prospect development but if the staff thinks that he will benefit from the AHL or the NHL, then sign him up and start his pro career.
The one thing that he is going to need is patience from the fans and the staff. Looking at JVR on the Flyers, this is his breakout year. It seemed like they were going to give up on him, maybe he came out too early, maybe he should have been given more time in the A. Then again, maybe the Flyers did everything right and the big kid took this amount of time to get used to his body and the style of the NHL.
Don't watch any BC hockey , but I stat watch and watched all WJC games . Cam Atkinson by what I read seems to be the focal point of the team as scoring and is putting up more dominant numbers . From what I saw if WJC CK is in the screen the goalie in the slot role on PP , does PK . He has been a dominant player in big games which seems to me that he has the ability to elevate his game and really focus . He has 16 points and almost 20 shots less on goal than Atkinson . He is shooting not scoring as much but my guess playing more of a shutdown role . I see his developing into a very similar player to Dubinsky with more flat out speed . I would love to see Dubi back at center with Ck on left and Gaby on the right as soon as possible and just let Kreider play North south hockey and go to the net . If asap is after a half or full season of AHl then so be it . I would like to see him turn pro and play more games than a college season
CK also apparently a player that was so physically dominant to everyone up until 2 years ago that I think he is jaut learning how to really play hockey in th last 18 months . His work ethic off the ice and his NHl combine I read was pretty intense . I would think with his skating speed and power alone he should score 20 just about every year if he can keep his stick on the Ice . On the right team at the right time the sky is the limit .
I didn't say he wouldn't make a positive impact on the team. He's not at full potential yet. He really has to refine his skills before he becomes the type of player everyone on this board wants him to be. Sure, he can come in next year, halfway through, and make some sort of impact... However, he definitely needs to work on consistently making an impact, stick handling, and bulking up. Until then, he won't live up to the NHL expectations that so many people on this board have of him.
If he really improves those area's of weakness, he'll easily be one of the best players for the Rangers. He's not there yet.
Torts can think that he's ready to play and then just as easily send him down to the minors and watch him rot down there. Torts thought Del Zotto could make an impact too.
What 20 year old steps in and immediately reaches full potential? Obviously he is gonna take time to develop and reach his ceiling. I would rather him develop his game at the NHL or AHL level than in the NCAA where theyre only playing 40 games or so. As far as I have seen, he is ready to make the jump to the NHL.