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02-17-2011, 04:01 PM
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Stastny to Buffalo

I've heard whispers that Stastny might be available.
Why? I don't know.

But if he is, would

Roy
Enroth
Sekera or Butler
1st

be enough?

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02-17-2011, 04:06 PM
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$1 ≠ 21 Nickels

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Thats pretty good value. A solid no. 2 in Roy, top end goalie prospect in Enroth, a 1st and a player. I'd do it as an Av fan. Tho that may be easier for me to say since Buffalo is my 2nd fav team and would love to see Stastny there.

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whispers are wrong. we have no reason to trade him for anything but an overpayment right now. Plus using him to plug one of our holes just opens up a new gaping one.

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I don't see him going to buffalo for anything less than roy and vanek or myers straight up tbh. Not good trading partners imo.

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This won't happen. Stastny is too valuable to the Avs. Buffalo would have to give up too much, which would make it a lateral move, at best.

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I am starting to think Stastny is getting overrated here. He is a quietly very effective two way center. He is not the guy that will lift a franchise.

I don't see him as that big of an upgrade over Roy to motivate this package. And I am an Avs fan.

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That's a terrible deal for Buffalo.

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$1 ≠ 21 Nickels
This is the stupidest comment. Of course it doesn't. 21 nickels is more and at the end of the day 21 nickels is always a hundred percent more desirable.

This isn't applicable to the thread. At all.

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I've heard whispers that Stastny might be available.
Why? I don't know.
There are alot of idiots over on the Avs board. Alot think simply trading Stastny for a #1 defensemen will solve all our problems.

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I am starting to think Stastny is getting overrated here.
And yet he is horribly under rated over on the Avs board.

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I've heard whispers that Stastny might be available.
Why? I don't know.

But if he is, would

Roy
Enroth
Sekera or Butler
1st

be enough?
As one of the more critical Avs fans, I think that package makes us think long and hard even if the pick were lower.

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I am starting to think Stastny is getting overrated here. He is a quietly very effective two way center. He is not the guy that will lift a franchise.

I don't see him as that big of an upgrade over Roy to motivate this package. And I am an Avs fan.
I don't even think Buffalo would do this. If they think Roy can't be a PPG guy then its more of a sideways move if you take cap space into consideration. The 2.2 million difference is a big help.

Stastny is a great player to have. Having two PPG centers is awesome but its going to be a fun little job to fit him and Duchenne into the fold when Duchenne hits RFA next year.

If Colorado could get a younger (by this I mean between 25 and 28) 2nd line center, a high pick/great prospect and a top 4 dman then they should fully move Stastny.

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Yeah...this is overpayment by Buffalo big time.

But it would have to be for Stastny to be moved. I don't think he's some great future hall of famer or anything, but he's a solid player and will be the next captain of the Avalanche.

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And yet he is horribly under rated over on the Avs board.
That's because he is quietly very effective. Some like to focus more on the quiet than the effective part. Their loss.

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I've heard whispers that Stastny might be available.
Why? I don't know.

But if he is, would

Roy
Enroth
Sekera or Butler
1st

be enough?
It's more than whispers.
The price will be steeper than the package here though.
Stastny is considered a 2a center, he'll require a heavy package, but you are correct, Roy would most likely be involved.
You should include Connolly in that as well given the Duchene injury.
They most likely wouldn't want Enroth, they'd be looking for NHL experienced Goalie talent. But it has merit to add him. Sekera or Butler is good, but add Montador for sure.

Buffalo package in my opinion,

Roy
Connolly
Sekera/Butler
Montador
Rivet
1st rd pick 2011
2nd and 3rd pick 2012

FOR:
Stastny
O'Reilly

Is it over payment? Aren't all deadline deals.
But here's the deal, this would give Buffalo some serious leverage at the much needed Center position by covering the 2nd and 3rd line center position with youth for years to come.

Colorado gets back into the playoff race and has 3 good draft picks to boot.

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It's more than whispers.
The price will be steeper than the package here though.
Stastny is considered a 2a center, he'll require a heavy package, but you are correct, Roy would most likely be involved.
You should include Connolly in that as well given the Duchene injury.
They most likely wouldn't want Enroth, they'd be looking for NHL experienced Goalie talent. But it has merit to add him. Sekera or Butler is good, but add Montador for sure.

Buffalo package in my opinion,

Roy
Connolly
Sekera/Butler
Montador
Rivet
1st rd pick 2011
2nd and 3rd pick 2012

FOR:
Stastny
O'Reilly

Is it over payment? Aren't all deadline deals.
But here's the deal, this would give Buffalo some serious leverage at the much needed Center position by covering the 2nd and 3rd line center position with youth for years to come.

Colorado gets back into the playoff race and has 3 good draft picks to boot.
Are you serious? The OP's proposal was much better. Avs turn down this proposal easily. O'Reilly is a keeper, and Rivet's retiring at the end of this year.

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It's more than whispers.
The price will be steeper than the package here though.
Stastny is considered a 2a center, he'll require a heavy package, but you are correct, Roy would most likely be involved.
You should include Connolly in that as well given the Duchene injury.
They most likely wouldn't want Enroth, they'd be looking for NHL experienced Goalie talent. But it has merit to add him. Sekera or Butler is good, but add Montador for sure.

Buffalo package in my opinion,

Roy
ConnollySekera/Butler
Montador
Rivet1st rd pick 2011
2nd and 3rd pick 2012

FOR:
Stastny
O'Reilly

Is it over payment? Aren't all deadline deals.
But here's the deal, this would give Buffalo some serious leverage at the much needed Center position by covering the 2nd and 3rd line center position with youth for years to come.

Colorado gets back into the playoff race and has 3 good draft picks to boot.
Lol there's SO many things wrong with this. Basically, you're GUTTING Colorado's main strength : young centers under 25 for the future.

Why on earth would they trade BOTH Stastny and O'Reilly??

First, Colorado is 11 points back of a playoff spot, we're not getting in. We'd need to go on a 12-0 run to just get back into possible contention and then still keep playing at around .600. It's not going to happen. Not with our defense or current goaltending.

Thanks for including Rivet. He's completely washed up but we'll take him.

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02-17-2011, 05:18 PM
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In Avs perspective, I take this deal. They are already pretty much done with trying to make the playoffs. Roy will be healthy for next season and is not to much of a downgrad at all to Stastny, Enroth has some good potential, and IMO, Anderson is not gonna cut it.. Horrible this season. a 1st and Sekara, a veteran defenseman who they can use right now.

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IMO Colorado is a lesser team going forward if they make anything close to this trade.

They don't even save much if anything in terms of cap room or actual salary.

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In Avs perspective, I take this deal. They are already pretty much done with trying to make the playoffs. Roy will be healthy for next season and is not to much of a downgrad at all to Stastny, Enroth has some good potential, and IMO, Anderson is not gonna cut it.. Horrible this season. a 1st and Sekara, a veteran defenseman who they can use right now.
From a KINGS perspective, I would trade JMFJ to the Avs for Matt Hunwick.

So the Avs get Roy (ok fine) and Connolly (why again?) and then Sekaras, yes a veteran d-man similar to one that can easily be acquired on July 1st and Enroth, who may or may not be better than Pickard.

Yes, by all means, let's give them O'Reilly. lol

PLEASE stop trying to 'QUICK FIX' the Avs with DEADLINE DEALS.

The Avs are going to be just fine IF they stay the course and keep building. Oh and by the way, that DOES NOT INCLUDE trading our better under 25 players for players we don't really need to just end up NOT contending anyways.

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We're giving up Stastny and not getting Miller, Vanek, or Myers in the deal?

Awesome.

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What a terrible deal for Buffalo.

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From a KINGS perspective, I would trade JMFJ to the Avs for Matt Hunwick.

So the Avs get Roy (ok fine) and Connolly (why again?) and then Sekaras, yes a veteran d-man similar to one that can easily be acquired on July 1st and Enroth, who may or may not be better than Pickard.

Yes, by all means, let's give them O'Reilly. lol

PLEASE stop trying to 'QUICK FIX' the Avs with DEADLINE DEALS.

The Avs are going to be just fine IF they stay the course and keep building. Oh and by the way, that DOES NOT INCLUDE trading our better under 25 players for players we don't really need to just end up NOT contending anyways.
I was talking about the original deal..... Connolly does no good on the Avs and is a waste of space. I would much rather have O'Reilly too.
PS: In the ORIGINAL deal, you get a 1st rounder? How does that sop the rebuild? Let's not forget that Enroth is what? 23? 24? Roy is about the same age as Stastny.

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We're giving up Stastny and not getting Miller, Vanek, or Myers in the deal?

Awesome.
I know right. If we are trading Stastny one of those guys has to be coming back as part of the package.

If you want one of our best players you have to give us one of yours.

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Roy and Enroth should be enough.

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