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02-17-2011, 05:01 PM
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The point is, I think, that any time you're dealing with a huge bureaucracy the odds are pretty high that some kind of red tape/procedural mess is going to happen.

Forsberg's comeback was delayed as well with visa problems (though Felger's probably unaware of that); this is not unheard of.
I completely agree with you -- just being an HR nerd.

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02-17-2011, 05:09 PM
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If you're talking about laziness and procedural crap nonsense on the part of someone in the Immigration Department, you're probably right.

I hope that's who Felger's going off on, because to go off on the Bruins or the Sens or Kelly himself would be ridiculous.
Ya I'm talking about the immigration department.

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I HIGHLY DOUBT that this is the problem....but I do know there is a limited number of these types of visas available across the US. Not sure how "muddied" the process can become if the number already granted gets high enough....
It doesn't make sense to me. Like it's not to hard to sit down and write some procedures for professional sports especially, in which you KNOW that these types of scenarios might happen.

It should be possible to issue a temp visa for situations like this so that players can play hockey immediately after they get traded from a Canadian team to a US team.

it's pretty simple. Requirements could be just that if the person applying for Visa is a professional athlete in a professional sports league, a temp visa can be issued, valid for 3 days. That about covers the amount of time it apparently takes to get the real visa worked out.

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02-17-2011, 05:14 PM
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Ya I'm talking about the immigration department.



It doesn't make sense to me. Like it's not to hard to sit down and write some procedures for professional sports especially, in which you KNOW that these types of scenarios might happen.

It should be possible to issue a temp visa for situations like this so that players can play hockey immediately after they get traded from a Canadian team to a US team.

it's pretty simple. Requirements could be just that if the person applying for Visa is a professional athlete in a professional sports league, a temp visa can be issued, valid for 3 days. That about covers the amount of time it apparently takes to get the real visa worked out.
I hear they had that all worked out, but the fax machine jammed.

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02-17-2011, 05:35 PM
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I hear they had that all worked out, but the fax machine jammed.
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My bet this week is a check week and they cant get the paper work settled so Uncle Sam can have thier taxes. So last paycheck in Canada before changing over to the US.

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I don't understand how it takes so long. I am a Canadian Citizen and have no issues getting a US visa. My company provides them with detailed paper work, I wait in customs room at airport for half hour, answer a few questions and I am on my way. The biggest issue when obtaining a visa is that you are taking work from a citizen of that country. Your employer needs to prove that you are specialized in your area of work, which shouldn't be hard for the NHL as they go through the process all the time. I am also pretty sure there is a special visa for professional sports players or entertainers.

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Way off the beaten path here (no I haven't read all of the previous posts) but: is it possible that Kelly is a piece in a secondary trade to another team so they (the Bruins) are buying time by not playing him? I know that it's a real longshot but we're pretty much all in agreement that this is too ridiculous to be true. But then again...

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02-17-2011, 06:42 PM
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Ya I'm talking about the immigration department.



It doesn't make sense to me. Like it's not to hard to sit down and write some procedures for professional sports especially, in which you KNOW that these types of scenarios might happen.

It should be possible to issue a temp visa for situations like this so that players can play hockey immediately after they get traded from a Canadian team to a US team.

it's pretty simple. Requirements could be just that if the person applying for Visa is a professional athlete in a professional sports league, a temp visa can be issued, valid for 3 days.That about covers the amount of time it apparently takes to get the real visa worked out.
There is one for professional sports and entertainment. It's called a P Visa.

Re: the bolded, it's a good idea for these purposes, but it would never fly.

It's the government. It's slow.

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Ahh, was wondering why he wasn't playing. Hope you guys enjoy him

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You know, if this isn't all cleared up by tomorrow, I wonder if he will be able to play even though the game is in Canada.

I would assume the issue is that he's not yet authorized to work for (play for) a US based employer, not that he can't cross into the US to play hockey.

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I wonder if Mr Kelly has some legal troubles delaying his visa?

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Visa Issues

Have Kelly's visa stuff all went through yet?

And will Kaberle need to clear for tonight because they are already in Canada?

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02-18-2011, 01:09 PM
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Have Kelly's visa stuff all went through yet?

And will Kaberle need to clear for tonight because they are already in Canada?
It's not an issue of which country the game is in.

Kaberle was employed by a Canadian company. Now he's employed by an American company. He needs a Visa before he can work for them.

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