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02-20-2011, 12:26 AM
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Panthers receive: F Luca Caputi, G J.S. Giguerre, and the 3rd round pick Burke keeps talking about trading.

Maple Leafs receive: G Tomas Vokoun

I'm not expecting much in return for Vokoun anymore. I'm actually expecting barely anything, at all. Something is better than nothing.

Makes sense to me. Leafs have said they're interested in a goalie. I'm sure they'd have no problems giving a guy like Vokoun the money/get the fanbase excited to have an actual goalie.

Caputi instantly makes the Panthers roster (big, young player with some potential...the Panthers are going to need bodies this year already with all the veteran forwards on their way out), the 3rd round pick, and a Giguerre showcase. If Giguerre does a solid job, he's more likely to take a significant paycut for next year, based on his #'s/he can platoon with Clemmensen until Markstrom is ready. If for some reason, Giguerre doesn't want to sign here, then whatever. Use his money elsewhere, and at least we got something for Vokoun.

I could be totally off here, but it's getting to the point where I think the Panthers are going to end up losing Vokoun for nothing.

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02-20-2011, 12:27 AM
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neither team does this.

edit: actually toronto might

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02-20-2011, 12:30 AM
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Toronto takes the deal but gives you a 2012 2nd instead of a 3rd rounder.


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02-20-2011, 12:32 AM
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Caputis injured and expected to return around March so he wouldnt jump in right away

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02-20-2011, 12:33 AM
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Caputis injured and expected to return around March so he wouldnt jump in right away
March is right around the corner. Late March?

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02-20-2011, 12:34 AM
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I'm indifferent to this deal. It would be nice to upgrade in goal, but i really can't expect the Leafs to make the playoffs, even if we do add Vokoun. Heck, Reimer got a shutout tonight, but we still lost because the Leafs just can't score goals.

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02-20-2011, 12:38 AM
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Toronto takes the deal but gives you a 2012 2nd instead of a 3rd rounder.

Nah. Toronto keeps the 2012 2nd.

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02-20-2011, 01:19 AM
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Are you really a Florida fan? The Panthers could easily do better elsewhere, to a team that is actually in contention and needs a goalie.

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02-20-2011, 01:28 AM
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Erick, you've gone off the deep end with this one.

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Well both goalies are UFA's

So unless TO plans on signing Vuk-don't see them doing to deal.

Florida is closer to the playoffs then the leafs and JSG has been unpredicatable. Don't see the leafs moving a pick and a prospect to play musical chairs

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You can get more appropriate returns for Vokoun.

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02-20-2011, 01:58 AM
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What do you guys think Vokoun is worth at the moment? I'm not saying I disagree with anyone on here; I'm just wondering what people's thoughts are. His #'s are really good, but he's not young, and he's a UFA after the year. Not many teams need goalies. Maybe a couple. I don't think the Panthers have much leverage in this situation, and I'm expecting a crappy return (if there's a return, that is).

The Panthers have already said that they're not willing to talk to upcoming UFA's during the season, either; so if they don't trade Vokoun by Feb. 28th deadline, he's automatically a free agent.

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02-20-2011, 03:22 AM
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Looking at the ridiculous returns at this deadline, I'd say Vokoun is worth at least one 1st to a contender and a solid B prospect.

I want nothing to do with Vokoun with Reimer playing this well. I say we ride him to the playoffs

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02-20-2011, 03:28 AM
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Stop.

What do you think we'll get in return, if Tallon ends up trading him?

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Looking at the ridiculous returns at this deadline, I'd say Vokoun is worth at least one 1st to a contender and a solid B prospect.

I want nothing to do with Vokoun with Reimer playing this well. I say we ride him to the playoffs
The ridiculous returns...none of them have been for goalies.

Dwayne Roloson was traded straight up for Ty Wishart, and then there was the Craig Anderson/Brian Elliot swap.

I think teams are seeing that they don't necessarily need a high-paid goalie to win a Stanley Cup, and they know that Vokoun, in all likelihood, is a rental (and not getting any younger, either).

I don't think we end up with a 1st, unfortunately.

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The ridiculous returns...none of them have been for goalies.

Dwayne Roloson was traded straight up for Ty Wishart, and then there was the Craig Anderson/Brian Elliot swap.

I think teams are seeing that they don't necessarily need a high-paid goalie to win a Stanley Cup, and they know that Vokoun, in all likelihood, is a rental (and not getting any younger, either).

I don't think we end up with a 1st, unfortunately.
Agreed that Roloson was a steal for Tampa but Vokoun is a much better goalie.

I think he SHOULD get a first, but if not then a very solid prospect, like, 10000 leagues above Wishart lol.

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Agreed that Roloson was a steal for Tampa but Vokoun is a much better goalie.

I think he SHOULD get a first, but if not then a very solid prospect, like, 10000 leagues above Wishart lol.
I sure hope so.

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I sure hope so.
lol well hopefully it won't be either of the Leafs.

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02-20-2011, 08:29 AM
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I really don't see Toronto making that move. Whatever Burke may be claiming, the trading of Versteeg and Kaberle without recieving a single player who is currently playing in the NHL basically means that the Leafs have thrown in the towel for the season. I believe that they will be riding Reimer for the rest of the season in an effort to assess just what they have with him. Is this kid for real or is he simply having a hot streak?

If Vocoun is traded it will be to a team intending to use him for a cup run, not for a team that is essentially "spinning the tires" for the rest of the season.

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02-20-2011, 08:42 AM
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Erick, you've gone off the deep end with this one.
I think now he's just making as many awful proposals as he can in the hopes one happens so he can quote it and say "i told you so".

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02-20-2011, 08:52 AM
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Panthers receive: F Luca Caputi, G J.S. Giguerre, and the 3rd round pick Burke keeps talking about trading.

Maple Leafs receive: G Tomas Vokoun

I'm not expecting much in return for Vokoun anymore. I'm actually expecting barely anything, at all. Something is better than nothing.

Makes sense to me. Leafs have said they're interested in a goalie. I'm sure they'd have no problems giving a guy like Vokoun the money/get the fanbase excited to have an actual goalie.

Caputi instantly makes the Panthers roster (big, young player with some potential...the Panthers are going to need bodies this year already with all the veteran forwards on their way out), the 3rd round pick, and a Giguerre showcase. If Giguerre does a solid job, he's more likely to take a significant paycut for next year, based on his #'s/he can platoon with Clemmensen until Markstrom is ready. If for some reason, Giguerre doesn't want to sign here, then whatever. Use his money elsewhere, and at least we got something for Vokoun.

I could be totally off here, but it's getting to the point where I think the Panthers are going to end up losing Vokoun for nothing.
Careful, you're going to piss alot of people off offering Toronto a good deal.

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02-20-2011, 09:01 AM
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Disgusting. Florida gets burned here. Their goalie is amazing and he's got a NTC.

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March is right around the corner. Late March?
Not sure, but either way it wouldnt be right away i never said it would take long

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