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02-20-2011, 01:09 PM
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no it's because when the leafs drafted kadri his stock went down 50% on HF boards because he's playing in toronto. HF boards strikes again
So what, like 50% of your posts are you complaining about the indignities the Leafs have to deal with on this forum?

It must be difficult to sleep at night with all the crying. The only reason the Leafs get a hard time around here is because of you and a handful of other Leaf fans who are either out saying "Kadri straight up for Ovechkin!" or complaining about how everyone on the Leafs are underrated because of a secret cult of Leaf haters.

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So what, like 50% of your posts are you complaining about the indignities the Leafs have to deal with on this forum?

It must be difficult to sleep at night with all the crying. The only reason the Leafs get a hard time around here is because of you and a handful of other Leaf fans who are either out saying "Kadri straight up for Ovechkin!" or complaining about how everyone on the Leafs are underrated because of a secret cult of Leaf haters.

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So what, like 50% of your posts are you complaining about the indignities the Leafs have to deal with on this forum?

It must be difficult to sleep at night with all the crying. The only reason the Leafs get a hard time around here is because of you and a handful of other Leaf fans who are either out saying "Kadri straight up for Ovechkin!" or complaining about how everyone on the Leafs are underrated because of a secret cult of Leaf haters.
I wouldn't do it, the Leafs wouldn't have enough cap space to sign some key RFA's without salary going back to WSH

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3rd round pick at most.
Thats rational. I can see the Leafs giving up a promising blue chip prospect they recently drafted in the early first round for a 3rd. Makes complete sense.

You're part of the other handful of posters who make the whole forum look bad.

"I'd maybe give up a 2nd for Kessel. He sucks ha ha"

The posts are just always so original. I get excited every time I see one just so I can see some of your guys new and exciting ways to say Kessel sucks, Kadri sucks, Phaneuf sucks, etc. Do I have to use a sarcasm smiley here? Nah. I think you get the point.

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02-20-2011, 01:20 PM
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So what, like 50% of your posts are you complaining about the indignities the Leafs have to deal with on this forum?

It must be difficult to sleep at night with all the crying. The only reason the Leafs get a hard time around here is because of you and a handful of other Leaf fans who are either out saying "Kadri straight up for Ovechkin!" or complaining about how everyone on the Leafs are underrated because of a secret cult of Leaf haters.
a great example of what i'm saying is the stupid offers for players like kaberle , versteeg and beauchemin. if the responders knew what they were talking about the leafs should have got a couple 2nd and 3rd round picks and wheeler.

instead we get two 1st round picks , cond' 2nd , 3rd round pick , 4th round pick , colborne , gardiner , lupul . good job HF boards. take your head out of your a-- and see players on the leafs for what they are. if people stopped underrating players on the leafs i'll stop saying it.

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02-20-2011, 01:23 PM
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Voynov
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Moller+Teubert

To me Kadri tops out as another Riberio, not a knock just that's how I view him.
I'd definitely take moller + teubert for kadri... or at least have to think hard about it

as for people kvetching about the stalberg, dido, paradis for versteeg move... it was genious. paradis and dido would have amounted to zero on our team... we already have plent of bottom 6 forwards. stalberg was a nice one, but he hasn't panned out to much in chicago... versteeg is a great player who turned into a 1st and 3rd

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I don't understand why Kadri is only worth a mid to late 1st round pick now. He has done nothing to lower his value; I guess new draft picks are shinier.
IMO he was only worth a mid rd pick to start with.I think the Leafs drafted him a little to early.

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no it's because when the leafs drafted kadri his stock went down 50% on HF boards because he's playing in toronto. HF boards strikes again

On you my friend it has nothing to do with him being a Leafs prospect.
His value has dropped a bit so being i would only have drafted him in the Mid rds than i would guess it's safe to assume since IMO his value has dipped his worth would be between a mid to late 1st rd pick.

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02-20-2011, 01:29 PM
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a great example of what i'm saying is the stupid offers for players like kaberle , versteeg and beauchemin. if the responders knew what they were talking about the leafs should have got a couple 2nd and 3rd round picks and wheeler.

instead we get two 1st round picks , cond' 2nd , 3rd round pick , 4th round pick , colborne , gardiner , lupul . good job HF boards. take your head out of your a-- and see players on the leafs for what they are. if people stopped underrating players on the leafs i'll stop saying it.
Or they could have got Ovechkin, Crosby, 18 first round picks, and the right to way Gretzkys eldest male child if you went by what some Leaf fans were asking for in trade threads.

The homers balance out the trolls, so lets not act like there weren't fans proposing insanely over priced deals for your players before hand.

Either way, the fact is neither those kind of posts, or yours benefit threads. Its a waste of everyones time.

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02-20-2011, 01:43 PM
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Some great defensive prospect, or a power forward first line prospect. If not that, then we are better off keeping him.

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Wow? A Kadri thread that hasn't spiraled into lunacy yet? I'm surprised everyone is getting along so far, other than the guy who decided a facepalm was good enough for a post, or the classic "7th rounder! Ha ha, I'm so original!"

As far as Edmonton TO goes, I agree with everything said so far.
Omark for Kadri is an underpayment. I'm an Oiler fan and I have no idea who Blain is. I'm going to go out on a limb and say he sucks.

As far as Paajarvi for Kadri, the value seems fair, but like it has been said, Edmonton needs a big, defensively sound #1 center, so if we're talking prospects I'd say more in the line of Colborne, who I'm not sure I'd give Paajarvi up for either.
Nope he doesn't. He is big, smart and is lighting up the Q and is only 18. Going to be considered a huge steal in a couple years.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=115893
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/jeremie_blain

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Even if people knew Blain better, it's probably still an underpayment. I'm just not that interested in that type of player (small skilled forward) when we already have so many

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kessel kadri + 1st

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schenn + random D prospect

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no it's because when the leafs drafted kadri his stock went down 50% on HF boards because he's playing in toronto. HF boards strikes again
poor old Toronto, always the victim, you would think there unparalleled success over the past couple decades would earn the franchise more respect

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kessel kadri + 1st

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maybe remove kessel and remove the random d prospect

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I'm an Oiler fan and I have no idea who Blain is. I'm going to go out on a limb and say he sucks.
What a dumb statement. Why comment on a prospect if u don't know who he is.

Here's a list of the last 20 defensemen in the WHL who are over 6"1' and have scored a ppg at 18.


Redden
Berrard
Boynton
fisher
hamhuis
Klesla
Bouwmeester
tyutin
Barker
Vlasic
Doughty
Blum
Del Zotto
Bogosian
Carlson
Kulikov
Gormely
Blain
Marincin

Every one of them has been a solid NHL player or soon will be. Note those two at the bottom, you'll soon know more about them cuz they'll be in copper and blue for years. Blain is a serious prospect, another Stu Macgregor gem.

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^^ meant to say CHL, not WHL

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I'd only trade him for a package deal that gets us a top 3 forward or a really good defensemen. Otherwise I keep him.

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maybe remove kessel and remove the random d prospect
And remove Kadri.

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And remove Kadri.
cmon. dont be ridiculous unless its 2012 1st + other picks

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Why are Leaf fans trying to sell prospects? From all the deals they have done arn't they buying them? Or are they admitting that Kadri is not much of a prospect??

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Unless he disappoints again next year, Toronto is better off holding onto Nazem Kadri. Joe Colborne who (at least IMO) will problably be a better winger at the NHL level, which means that Kadri is our only player who has legitimate #1 centre potential.

Teams just aren't going to part with their relatively young #1 centres for picks/prospects, even ones of Nazem Kadri's calibre. Heck, you look at a guy like Brayden Schenn who seems to be a more desirable commodity, and the consensus on him is that he could get a guy like Hemsky/Penner.

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cmon. dont be ridiculous unless its 2012 1st + other picks
Leafs wont have their 2012 pick after they sign Stamkos.

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Why would the Leafs trade him?

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Lets keep the PPG AHL rookie.

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