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02-21-2011, 09:39 AM
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Chicago / Columbus

To Columbus:

Michael Frolik
Ivan Vishnevskiy
Phillipe Paradis
2011 3rd

To Chicago:

Jakub Voracek
Nikita Filatov
Jan Hejda

Hawks would keep Filatov in minors this year for cap reasons. If my math is right this should be a cap friendly deal if Hawks waive Boynton and Scott or Johnson, 2 players like that.

This is assuming the rumors that Voracek is on the block are true.

Thoughts?

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02-21-2011, 09:44 AM
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Horribly one sided in Chicago's favor.

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did you forget the three firsts going to columbus?

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02-21-2011, 09:49 AM
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Columbus gets screwed. Vishnevskiy, though decent, hasn't been as good in the AHL as some of us had anticipated. Vishnevskiy for Hejda is OK value. Paradis isn't going to far and even though Frolik hasn't been too terrible, there's no way he and Paradis is worth it to Columbus to give a division rival Filatov and Voracek.

On that though, I'd do it just for the fact I am a Blackhawks fan.



Oh, and the 3rd doesn't make it fair, either.

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I wouldn't even trade Voracek for that package. No great value aside from Frolik, but Jake has proved more than him. Add to the fact that it's a division rival and you've got yourself a terrible proposal.

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02-21-2011, 09:51 AM
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To Columbus:

Michael Frolik
Ivan Vishnevskiy
Phillipe Paradis
2011 3rd

To Chicago:

Jakub Voracek
Nikita Filatov
Jan Hejda

Hawks would keep Filatov in minors this year for cap reasons. If my math is right this should be a cap friendly deal if Hawks waive Boynton and Scott or Johnson, 2 players like that.

This is assuming the rumors that Voracek is on the block are true.

Thoughts?

I guess you just got off the short bus.

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02-21-2011, 09:51 AM
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I wouldn't even trade Voracek for that package. No great value aside from Frolik, but Jake has proved more than him. Add to the fact that it's a division rival and you've got yourself a terrible proposal.
How has Voracek proved more?

Voracek 217 NHL Games Played - 36 goals
Frolik 218 NHL Games Played - 50 goals

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02-21-2011, 09:55 AM
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Oh, my mistake. I forgot goals were the only part of the game that meant anything.

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02-21-2011, 09:58 AM
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i'm not even going to touch this one

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02-21-2011, 09:58 AM
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Even assuming Voracek and Frolik are equal, the rest of the package isn't worth Filatov and Hejda (UFA). We aren't trading Filatov if we don't get good value for him, we can afford to wait.

Columbus says no until Vishnevsky, Paradis, and the 3rd are substituted out for a single player that is slightly better than their sum.

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02-21-2011, 09:59 AM
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I doubt that package alone would land you Jakub Voracek...

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How has Voracek proved more?

Voracek 217 NHL Games Played - 36 goals
Frolik 218 NHL Games Played - 50 goals
Gotta give the entire picture.

Voracek - 36 goals and 90 assists, only 21 years old.
Frolik - 50 goals and 67 assists, 23 years old.

Voracek - 126 points
Frolik - 117 points

I would say that at this point in time, Voracek is the better player based on these stats and that he's 2 years younger.

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02-21-2011, 10:06 AM
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How has Voracek proved more?

Voracek 217 NHL Games Played - 36 goals
Frolik 218 NHL Games Played - 50 goals
Frolik has more goal in his career
Voracek has had more assist, points, and a higher career +/-
I would rather keep/have Voracek

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The only circumstances under which Voracek is traded at all are those in which he is not the best player in the trade.

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How has Voracek proved more?

Voracek 217 NHL Games Played - 36 goals
Frolik 218 NHL Games Played - 50 goals
Which player would you rather have on your team?

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02-21-2011, 02:13 PM
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omg... maybe add 2 1st rounders instead of the 3rd

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omg... maybe add 2 1st rounders instead of the 3rd
Columbus can't take picks like that. Better add ONE roster player worth 2 first round picks.
Toews, problem solved!

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02-21-2011, 02:22 PM
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Columbus can't take picks like that. Better add ONE roster player worth 2 first round picks.
Toews, problem solved!
now you get worse than the OP...

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