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02-21-2011, 10:03 AM
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Wow, you guys serious?

Stastny is a #1 center already at the age of 25. He's exactly what we need! A game-breaker. Point-per-game player!

Look at what the Kings are giving up in the rumored deal to get him. It's similar to what I put up.
I think that people have forgotten what a marvel it is for someone to be so effective at such a young age. In the past decade the players seem to be much more physically developed before the draft.

Due to that and the salary cap we're seeing a lot more players come into the NHL at a younger age and it's making great players who have yet to come into their prime look less significant. It's wrong. It's horrible.

Stastny was a 2nd rounder and it didn't take long for him to find his way to Colorado's 1st line. In my mind he and Duchene will be an elite 1-2 punch because of how complete a game they both play.

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02-21-2011, 11:01 AM
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How about Booth, Guds, second round pick for PS?

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How about Booth, Guds, second round pick for PS?
prefer Kings rumor

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02-21-2011, 11:26 AM
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Why don't we just swap our entire organizations and call the Panthers the Avs and vice-versa?

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02-21-2011, 01:29 PM
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To Florida: Stastny, Galiardi, pick
To Colorado: Booth, Kulikov, Markstrom
don't quit your day job - because you'd be the worst general manager i've ever seen.

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02-21-2011, 01:48 PM
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don't quit your day job - because you'd be the worst general manager i've ever seen.
Check out the Kings rumor, and then comeback and tell me Stastny+ isn't worth that.

They're actually asking the Kings for more, considering Jack Johnson is more proven than Kulikov, and signed long-term.

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02-21-2011, 01:56 PM
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Check out the Kings rumor, and then comeback and tell me Stastny+ isn't worth that.

They're actually asking the Kings for more, considering Jack Johnson is more proven than Kulikov, and signed long-term.
Oh, so we use rumors now as guidelines for determining players value?
Your proposals are terrible.

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02-21-2011, 02:21 PM
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Oh, so we use rumors now as guidelines for determining players value?
It's not a bad place to start...assuming that it's from a reputable source. At least the perceived values placed on a players by real NHL GMs are being used. I'd take that over some 'proposal' from a fan boi over-valuing their favorite player.

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02-21-2011, 02:33 PM
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Oh, so we use rumors now as guidelines for determining players value?
Your proposals are terrible.
To be fair, there's no way us Avs would part with Stastny for much less... It's just a matter of whether you want Stastny or not for your longterm plans.

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02-21-2011, 02:34 PM
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Check out the Kings rumor, and then comeback and tell me Stastny+ isn't worth that.

They're actually asking the Kings for more, considering Jack Johnson is more proven than Kulikov, and signed long-term.
its a rumor - einstein. if you heard a rumor of jack johnson drew doughty jonathan bernier brayden schenn and anze kopitar for paul stastny and tj galiardi would you try and match that too?

just because the kings are RUMORED to be considering a terrible trade doesn't mean we should jump off the bride and mortgage our entire organization for one player.

your proposals are T-E-R-R-I-B-L-E. Stop.

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02-21-2011, 02:34 PM
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To Florida: Stastny, Galiardi, pick
To Colorado: Booth, Kulikov, Markstrom
As long as thats not of one our first round picks.

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02-21-2011, 02:38 PM
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The people coming up with the rumors have more legit sources than the people on hfboards. So yeah, I'll go with the rumors.

The rumor makes sense; Paul Stastny is a near point-per-game player, and he's only 25. #1 center's at such a young age in the NHL are rare. If you're not willing to part with that much, fine; but that's what he's worth.

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02-21-2011, 02:49 PM
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The people coming up with the rumors have more legit sources than the people on hfboards. So yeah, I'll go with the rumors.

The rumor makes sense; Paul Stastny is a near point-per-game player, and he's only 25. #1 center's at such a young age in the NHL are rare. If you're not willing to part with that much, fine; but that's what he's worth.
I'm an Avs fan and I think many posters here have a distorted view of what Stastny is. He is not a guy that will put a team on his back. What he will do is play a lot of tough minutes and contribute offensively while being very solid in all aspects of the game. Of course a 1-2 punch with Weiss and Stastny would be very useful for Panthers (Weiss would probably look better when avoiding some of the tough matchups), but not at the cost of giving up a lot of your future.

I think Stastny would be too expensive to trade for simply because Avs would implode without him. They can't trade him without it being an offer too good to refuse.

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02-21-2011, 02:55 PM
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It might not be the right trade to a lot of people, but it certainly sounds like the Panthers will try to add a big-time center, any way they can.

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_hockey_panthers/

That's from today, and it's actually consistent with what they've been saying ever since Tallon/Santos got here. They want to acquire a #1 center to compliment Weiss.

They absolutely have to acquire a #1 center to compliment Weiss.

If the Panthers had just a little more talent offensively...a guy who could put up the points like an elite player, they'd be a playoff team.

This team has played a bunch of one goal games, and have come up short, due to lack of skill.

Dale Tallon and Mike Santos aren't going to be afraid to shake up the team's core.

Another thing that's not being taken into account in the trade is that Galiardi is not a bad player, at all. He has some upside, too.

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02-21-2011, 03:13 PM
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Another thing that's not being taken into account in the trade is that Galiardi is not a bad player, at all. He has some upside, too.
He's a solid 3rd liner when not injured. Gali won't be traded this season- he's out for the remainder of it with ANOTHER broken wrist.

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02-21-2011, 03:50 PM
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If it means risking a playoff spot this year, were going to do it.

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The people coming up with the rumors have more legit sources than the people on hfboards. So yeah, I'll go with the rumors.

The rumor makes sense; Paul Stastny is a near point-per-game player, and he's only 25. #1 center's at such a young age in the NHL are rare. If you're not willing to part with that much, fine; but that's what he's worth.
You really think Eklund has any sort of credibility determining a player's value?
Remind me to disregard your opinions in the future.

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02-21-2011, 03:54 PM
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Erick is a true Panther. He rips off his own team

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It's not a bad place to start...assuming that it's from a reputable source. At least the perceived values placed on a players by real NHL GMs are being used. I'd take that over some 'proposal' from a fan boi over-valuing their favorite player.
What reputable sources are accurately portraying the perceived values GM place in their players?
Please direct me, right away.

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You really think Eklund has any sort of credibility determining a player's value?
Remind me to disregard your opinions in the future.
The source isn't Eklund.

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#1 centers = the most difficult thing to get in the NHL.
Especially when they're only 25, and will play a big part of your long-term solution if you get them. It's not as if Paul Stastny is a #1 center who's a rental on the downside of his career. HE'S 25...A POINT PER GAME PLAYER! #1 CENTER! Seriously, what do you geniuses think he's worth?

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The source isn't Eklund.
"The people coming up with rumors"
That implies more than one person. Eklund is certainly a person who comes up with rumors.
I could come up with more legitimate rumors than Eklund.

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"The people coming up with rumors"
That implies more than one person. Eklund is certainly a person who comes up with rumors.
I could come up with more legitimate rumors than Eklund.
You're basically just arguing for the sake of arguing.

The person who came up with the specific COL-LA rumor was not Eklund. Perhaps you should stay on topic.

For what it's worth, according to statistics, Eklund is accurate about 3% of the time. That's about 3% more accurate than the people on hfboards; so yeah, sure why not...even Eklund.

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After thinking about it, I rather hold onto Markstrom and maybe give them another Goalie prospect or Drew Shore.

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