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02-24-2011, 12:35 PM
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Im sorry, but is this not absolutely perfect? lol
Let Jester bask in the glow that is this day.

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02-24-2011, 12:38 PM
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The other teams just wanted to respect his wish of retiring as a Flyer.

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Lol, solid troll thread. I can't wait to hear the excuses.

"If Lavi would have played him people would have seen how good he is."
"He will 100% be plucked off of re-entry waivers."
"The Pens would have taken him if they didn't have the Kovy deal in place."
"Homer told every other GM in the league that he's a locker room cancer, which he isn't."
"Shelly wouldn't have been claimed either."
"This is Carter's fault, somehow."
Just heard a new one by a poster on BSH.

"It's Leino's fault Zherdev didnt play." He went on then to compare the two.

People really dont give up do they?

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02-24-2011, 12:57 PM
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Just heard a new one by a poster on BSH.

"It's Leino's fault Zherdev didnt play." He went on then to compare the two.

People really dont give up do they?
I just don't even get where all the Zherdev love comes from.

He's got talent, but not really more than other guys on the team, and while he's scored some good goals for us this year, he's still so far from the type of player Flyers fans typically love, and it's not like he was our most productive forward either.

It's just bewildering...dude's a selfish hockey player who clearly does not care what the team is trying to accomplish or about the NHL. Why are people so intent on making excuses for him?

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02-24-2011, 01:09 PM
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Word I am hearing is that the Flyers are planning to keep Zherdev with the big club until after the trade deadline. Sounds about right.

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Let Jester bask in the glow that is this day.
Heh, I think even he'd enjoy it.

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02-24-2011, 02:04 PM
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could he be put on the playoff roster without clearing re-entry waivers? i'd still rather him out there over shelley so nodl can slide down to the 4th line for the playoffs.

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could he be put on the playoff roster without clearing re-entry waivers? i'd still rather him out there over shelley so nodl can slide down to the 4th line for the playoffs.
No. Re-entry exists throughout. However, in his case, it wouldn't really matter since it's a one-year deal... and, obviously, no one is really going to want him. Though, I guess a playoff team could claim him just to screw us if we really needed a body.

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It's too bad he didn't work out in anyway for the club. I enjoy his talent/skill - but when he didn't mesh it was obvious he was done for.

So much talent and a little brain on HOW to use it.

It was a minor risk, it didn't work out....

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02-24-2011, 02:15 PM
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If the Flyers don't assign Z to the AHL, he doesn't have to go through re-entry, because he was never sent down.

They can waive him and still keep/play him. He counts against the cap, mind you. Clearing waivers doesn't really mean anything. It's being re-assigned that takes you off the cap/requires you to go through re-entry.

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02-24-2011, 02:53 PM
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Can someone please pull up the 50 pages of rant from me and see if my comments actually made sense? Zherdev is so talented I do not understand why they would give up the scoring depth, Laviolette is just a bad coach to not realize the talents that are Zherdev.

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02-24-2011, 03:03 PM
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No. Re-entry exists throughout. However, in his case, it wouldn't really matter since it's a one-year deal... and, obviously, no one is really going to want him. Though, I guess a playoff team could claim him just to screw us if we really needed a body.
RE-entry? He has to be sent to the phantoms first? What are you talking about? He is staying with the FLyers and will be waived after the trade deadline again.

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Can someone please pull up the 50 pages of rant from me and see if my comments actually made sense? Zherdev is so talented I do not understand why they would give up the scoring depth, Laviolette is just a bad coach to not realize the talents that are Zherdev.
Seriously? You hate Carter and love Zherdev? You need a new team other than the Flyers. Otherwise, this is going to be a hard hockey watching experience for you.

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RE-entry? He has to be sent to the phantoms first? What are you talking about? He is staying with the FLyers and will be waived after the trade deadline again.
Did you not even bother to read the post I was responding to?

However, yes, if they keep him up he won't have to go on re-entry. And, no, he doesn't need to be waived again after the deadline. Once you clear, they're clear to assign a player for like a month before he has to go on waivers again.

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Seriously? You hate Carter and love Zherdev? You need a new team other than the Flyers. Otherwise, this is going to be a hard hockey watching experience for you.

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02-24-2011, 03:27 PM
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02-24-2011, 03:33 PM
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Seriously? You hate Carter and love Zherdev? You need a new team other than the Flyers. Otherwise, this is going to be a hard hockey watching experience for you.
My guess is that you have never read any of my tirades of the fraud named Zherdev.......called this from day one. And let's clarify my Carter "hate". It is called Carter frustration, all the tools but come playoffs he finds a way to disappear and plays charmin soft. I like his play as of late and the battle to tie up a couple Phx players and allow the puck to get over to Giroux was a good step. But I still will hold back the accolades until he shows up in the playoffs, otherwise he is Jumbo Joe Thornton or Ollie Jokinen......good riddence to Zherdev, hope you enjoy life in teh KHL.

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Man, how unfairly Lavy treated someone we couldn't even give away.

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Did you not even bother to read the post I was responding to?

However, yes, if they keep him up he won't have to go on re-entry. And, no, he doesn't need to be waived again after the deadline. Once you clear, they're clear to assign a player for like a month before he has to go on waivers again.



Sorry Jester - as usual, you were not wrong, just "mis-quoted". Why didn't you just respond - he doesn't need re-entry? I was just pointing out the previous question is not applicable, but.....urgh.

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What a crock of ****. This guy is incredible. Every GM in the league should lose their job for not putting in a claim on this wonderful player.

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Sorry Jester - as usual, you were not wrong, just "mis-quoted". Why didn't you just respond - he doesn't need re-entry?
Because they could very well assign him, and then re-entry would be an issue... There is a great deal of confusion concerning the existence of re-entry during the playoffs. Moreover, I do think they're going to assign him to the AHL after the deadline.


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I was just pointing out the previous question is not applicable, but.....urgh.
It is applicable if you're looking ahead and playing out scenarios.

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My guess is that you have never read any of my tirades of the fraud named Zherdev.......called this from day one. And let's clarify my Carter "hate". It is called Carter frustration, all the tools but come playoffs he finds a way to disappear and plays charmin soft. I like his play as of late and the battle to tie up a couple Phx players and allow the puck to get over to Giroux was a good step. But I still will hold back the accolades until he shows up in the playoffs, otherwise he is Jumbo Joe Thornton or Ollie Jokinen......good riddence to Zherdev, hope you enjoy life in teh KHL.
Sorry - I don't have a solid backround in your opinion on Zherdev and thus, took your previous comment as it was written. Then we are in agreement....Zherdev sucks arse.

As for Jester - Sorry again, I guess my lack of knowledge on previous hfboard postings is reason for ridicule. Perhaps I need to spend all day looking at every post to ensure I don't make the same mistake. Like you.

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Sorry - I don't have a solid backround in your opinion on Zherdev and thus, took your previous comment as it was written. Then we are in agreement....Zherdev sucks arse.

As for Jester - Sorry again, I guess my lack of knowledge on previous hfboard postings is reason for ridicule. Perhaps I need to spend all day looking at every post to ensure I don't make the same mistake. Like you.
Dude... go read that post again.

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Can someone please pull up the 50 pages of rant from me and see if my comments actually made sense?
50 pages... clue #1.

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Zherdev is so talented I do not understand why they would give up the scoring depth, Laviolette is just a bad coach to not realize the talents that are Zherdev.
Hyperbole just dripping with sarcasm.

You don't need to read every post, need to turn on your sarcasm detector.

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Because they could very well assign him, and then re-entry would be an issue... There is a great deal of confusion concerning the existence of re-entry during the playoffs. Moreover, I do think they're going to assign him to the AHL after the deadline.




It is applicable if you're looking ahead and playing out scenarios.
No, re-entry will never be an issue. If they assign him to the phantoms he will not report. If they don't assign it is not applicable. Based on the word on the street, the Flyers will waive him again at a later date when they believe someone will make a claim. If nobody does, Zherdev will likely be assigned to the Phantoms bolt to Russia and be suspended without pay. Either way, re-entry for Zherdev is not relevant. But, if it plays out differently - then yes, your point is valid. Just adding my .02.

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Dude... go read that post again.



50 pages... clue #1.



Hyperbole just dripping with sarcasm.

You don't need to read every post, need to turn on your sarcasm detector.
Since YOU created this thread calling out the Zherdev lovers, I just assumed a positive Zherdev post was from one of those folks you called out. Sorry.

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