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02-25-2011, 12:42 PM
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How much cap space could this possibly clear with only 21 games left? I don't think this has anything to do with a trade.

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LA needs a roster spot hence the Sturm waive IMO. Another team should pick him up. Tik may be on to something, but that's a huge deal. Should be interesting this weekend.

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Why couldn't it be for a roster spot though and not for cap reasons?

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Someone else posted that cap space this season isn't an issue due to pro-rated contracts, and Sturm is a UFA this season, so there really isn't a need to waive Sturm for financial reasons. That leaves roster spots, but the roster cap ends soon as well.

Hmm.

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How much cap space could this possibly clear with only 21 games left? I don't think this has anything to do with a trade.
I don't think it's for cap space so much as a roster spot. If we brought in a new guy, where would we play him?

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02-25-2011, 12:46 PM
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How much cap space could this possibly clear with only 21 games left? I don't think this has anything to do with a trade.
It opens a roster spot for the player(s) we're trading for. With whoever we get, one of our players had to go.

So I'm guessing we'll hear no trade news until after the Colorado game tomorrow, right? After he clears waivers and all that? I don't wanna go to bed and miss a trade.

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We have to maintain compliance with the roster until AFTER the deadline. In my opinion, it could mean that Dean is looking to acquire someone for purely picks and futures and needs a spot open to receive him. Or we are receiving more players than we are giving up etc... It does give us more flexibility.

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02-25-2011, 12:47 PM
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What is the deadline for putting in a claim? Is it tomorrow?

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What is the deadline for putting in a claim? Is it tomorrow?
Tomorrow at noon eastern.

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This time tomorrow.

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Again.. it could be for budget purposes as well.

If not, then Dean needs room to take on $5MM+ worth of contract(s).
That's not how the cap works. We should be able to fit just about anyone onto our team since the cap is pro-rated. For example, lets say we had ~$3mm in cap room throughout the year. For arguments sake, lets say we make the trade 75% of the way through the year. We would only need to pay for 25% of that traded players cap hit. Therefore, a $12 million annual cap hit X 25% (pro-rated) equals $3mm annual cap hit.

In reality, we have had less than $3mm in cap space throughout the year and we are not 75% of the way through the year, but you get the point. This is also overly simplified, but the point remains that cap room for this year is a non-issue.

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What is the deadline for putting in a claim? Is it tomorrow?
9 am west coast tomorrrow

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Also doesn't this mean, if this is about a trade (which seems like the only reason we would waive him), that we aren't gonna be giving up Simmonds?

Since if he we did give up Simmonds, there would be no point in waiving a roster player since the dude we trade for and Simmonds would just swap spots.

Except if we're going for more than one guy.

Now we wait for Sturm to go to the Islanders, score 20 goals, and everyone complain we gave up on him too early.

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I'll take my shot at rumor mongering (where were they on Sturm being waived?). Tampa scouts at last nights game, Lecavalier plays on Tampa, he has a huge contract, Tampa looking for a #1 goalie going forward with Rolo UFA after the season-Vinny to LA (T4) for a package that includes Bernier.
If you were Vinny and were playing in Florida (0% state income tax) would you waive your NTC to come to CA with its 10%+ tax?

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Oh boy, more Schenn rumors headed our way.

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Interesting, to say the least. Parse, loktionov, trade; could be for different reasons.

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My money is on Vanek (new owner trying to make a splash) or Gagne (DL Philly connection).

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Hopefully Hammond is on to something and its around David Booth or something.

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Didn't Parse have a set back? He wouldn't be ready to fill in for a while, so it's not him.

And if it was Loktionov, why even send him down? Did they just wanna see if Sturm was good enough to play, see last night he wasn't, and now want to bring Loktionov back up? It's not like Sturm played bad, and Murray/Lombardi talked about how Loktionov wasn't playing "heayy" enough and needed to be in the AHL some more to get better off the puck.

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If you were Vinny and were playing in Florida (0% state income tax) would you waive your NTC to come to CA with its 10%+ tax?
Absolutely. Getting out of the humidity would be worth it.

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The Kings could have called up Loktionov after the trade deadline without having to lost a roster player right?

So it has to be for a trade

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Not a shot in hell this happens. Kings have no reason to acquire another center unless it's a rental and includes on of our current rostered centers going the other way. Plus, if we are trading for someone with a monster contract, it's going to be someone who is actually in the prime of their career and not past it. This trade just doesn't make sense on any level for the Kings
I was rumor mongering, it doesn't have to make sense in any way, just connect the dots and throw on the wall (T5).

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02-25-2011, 12:58 PM
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Maybe Murray misses Westgarth in the line-up, so he demanded Sturm be waived so that Westy could return to his glorious 4th line role.

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02-25-2011, 01:00 PM
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Taking Vinny and his ridiculous contract would paralyse Kings for the next decade.

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My money is on Vanek (new owner trying to make a splash) or Gagne (DL Philly connection).
So the Kovalev to Pitt trade put the kabosh in the Michalek to LA/pitt rumors?

The only reason i can see for Sturm to be on waivers is a trade coming that has the Kings getting back one more roster player than they are giving up, or DL thinks Loktionov is a better option than Sturm at this point.

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