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Hemsky will not be moved to the Kings unless Schenn is coming the other way

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02-26-2011, 06:36 PM
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Whats up with the Oilers??? They think Hemsky and Penner are the greatest thing to hockey since the puck... looks like those guys are staying and Tambelini will keep his head in his...
Why do they have to be the greatest things to get Schenn?

And how does Tambellini have his head up his ass if he doesn't trade them?

Nothing you've said makes the least bit of sense.

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02-26-2011, 06:37 PM
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It's a chicken race Lombardi will win. He won't trade Schenn and Tambellini desperately wants Schenn.
That's not winning. That's staying exactly how it is now.

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The fact that they bring this up so often gives me this feeling that there could actually be a 30% chance for this trade to go down...

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Tambo will have better luck at the draft when he has 29 other potential buyers to deal with. CAP space really limits what some teams can do at the moment. I understand his asking price, but there is no way LA will cave, nor is there a reason for Tambo to either...It's a game of chicken where nobody can possibly die....

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Im an Oiler fan and a big Schenn fan so I like to think Im somewhat reasonable in my views but I want other peoples opinion, and I know on HF where a 100 point potential prospect is more valuable then a 100 point player because there's no cap hit but what are the chances Schenn is as good as Hemsky?

Hemksy is the 3rd best forward in his draft year. Will Schenn be a top line player? He sure has the potential to, he's got some sandpaper, skill, average size, decent wheels. I like the guy but is he a ppg player in the next few years? Personally, I think he is but how much is that worth?

Who's better, Schenn, Couturier or Ryan Nugent-Hopkins?

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He is more valuable to the oilers on the roster then trading him
Maybe. Then again, maybe not. The Oilers clearly aren't going to be contenders for at least a couple seasons. By that point, Hemsky may be gone as a UFA or they may be forced to sign him to a richer contract. However, long term he may not fit the Oilers Cap/Budget structure as their young stars come off their ELC contracts and perhaps develop into players that make him somewhat superfluous.

Of course, they can trade him next season too if they feel that is the right course but you are undeniably running a risk that his fragility significantly reduces his value from what it currently is.

Regardless, there is a legitimate argument for dealing him now for assets that fit into the Oilers' long term plans. (whether it is to LA or not) And if LA is that team, it would be myopic to not at leastconsider alternative LA packages that don't include Schenn. A year from now, they may well lament the missed opportunity of - say - Simmonds, Forbort & a 1st when Ales is on LTIR...

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Clearly the Oilers don't want to trade Hemsky.

Is he even technically on the market or is it a situation where they will just listen to offers instead of making offers???

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Lombardi doesn't have the gonads to pull of a deal where he might lose in the long run in order to strengthen his team to the point they become true contenders. How many players of high calibre are even in the market this time around? I'd say Hemsky and Penner are among the best you can get that are available without giving up roster players crucial to a Cup run.

Hey, there's always Zherdev. He'll make you a sure-fire contender.

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Meh. DL doesn't have the balls to do a "Joe Nieuwendyk-for-Jarome Iginla" type trade.
Nieuwendyk >>>>>>> Hemsky

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02-26-2011, 06:42 PM
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Lombardi doesn't have the gonads to pull of a deal where he might lose in the long run in order to strengthen his team to the point they become true contenders. How many players of high calibre are even in the market this time around? I'd say Hemsky and Penner are among the best you can get that are available without giving up roster players crucial to a Cup run.

Hey, there's always Zherdev. He'll make you a sure-fire contender.
Hemsky or Penner make the Kings better than Vancouver or Detroit?

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It's a chicken race Lombardi will win. He won't trade Schenn and Tambellini desperately wants Schenn.
thats not "winning" we are perfectly fine with keeping hemsky.

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If the kings do trade a blue chip and some, it's going to be for someone who is going to have a contract of 3 to 4+ years and obviously producing


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It's a chicken race Lombardi will win. He won't trade Schenn and Tambellini desperately wants Schenn.
lol at this. Seriously hilarious. The Oilers are not trying to rid themselves of the evil Hemsky or anything...

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Hemsky or Penner make the Kings better than Vancouver or Detroit?
With both, probably. It would be a very interesting series. How about without them and the status quo? Better chance then?

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Nieuwendyk >>>>>>> Hemsky
And Iginla>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>.Schenn

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It's a chicken race Lombardi will win. He won't trade Schenn and Tambellini desperately wants Schenn.
It's a chicken race Steady will win. He won't trade Hemsky and Lombardi desperately wants Hemsky.

See how that works?

Sure it would be nice to trade for Schenn, but there is nothing wrong with keeping Hemsky if the deal is anything less.

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Hasn't Lombardi said he isn't trading Schenn at all?
That he did...

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If the kings do trade a blue chip and some, it's going to be for someone who is going to have a contract of 3 to 4+ years and obviously producing
Wait Hemsky doesn't produce?

He gets hurt alot, but it sure as hell doesn't mean he doesn't produce.

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I hate when GMs nickel and dime their players. Schenn is a good young prospect but if you have a chance to make a run for the cup, you have to find a way. If not Schenn, then offer something good on the table for Tambellini to take it. Lombardi would make a good accountant. However, I would never hire the guy to be CEO of my company. No risk, no reward.

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Not really a surprise. We can keep Schenn and the Oilers will enjoy having Hemsky. Lombardi definitely won't budge on Schenn. Trading a player like Schenn winds up being the rare time you regret trading a prospect.

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That he did...
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Nieuwendyk >>>>>>> Hemsky
This

And at that time, Dallas was already a serious contender ready to take the next step. LA isn't there yet so no need to give a top-5 pick for an injury prone winger.

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It's a chicken race Lombardi will win. He won't trade Schenn and Tambellini desperately wants Schenn.
What? Tambellini doesn't really care if Hemsky doesn't get traded. He'll happily keep him on the roster. It's Lombardi who wants to compete for a Stanley Cup now. No one wins.

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Meh. DL doesn't have the balls to do a "Joe Nieuwendyk-for-Jarome Iginla" type trade.
True or not, concerning the balls-part let time decide.

But right now Kings is not Dallas Stars Stanley Cup contending good and Hemsky certainly isn't pushing a contending team over the top either. No meaning doing this trade if the sacrifice is what is discussed.

And no, that does not make it "Kings fans think he is Gretzky" or whatever BS being spewed out. It's very simple, there is no reason to trade him right now, just confirmed by the GM, unless someone special is going the other way.

The Kings are not that good and Hemsky is not that good.

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As soon as someone gets a youtube up of the DL interview after the 1st period of the Kings/Avs game...it will be there...

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