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02-26-2011, 03:05 PM
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I'm pretty sure Eklund has been trying to land Vokoun in Philly for a year now.

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personally I just want monday to pass with nothing happening to this current roster, maybe a depth player moved here or there, but noone on the current roster touched, dont **** with a good thing, and def dont trade away good roster player/forward depth for some overpaid, unproven goalie, that doesnt have a contract next year, that we certainly cant afford. PLEASE HOMER

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02-26-2011, 05:04 PM
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Is Vokoun the final piece?

Would Philly be able to add without losing someone off their roster?

I think this PO, the key for Philly will be watching the goaltenders closely and switching them fast if they falter. Having another option may be good.

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02-26-2011, 05:08 PM
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Would Philly be able to add without losing someone off their roster?

I think this PO, the key for Philly will be watching the goaltenders closely and switching them fast if they falter. Having another option may be good.
Not when his salary is 5.7....

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Vokoun would be the piece that destroyed our chances.

You can't waste $7M of cap space on goaltending and win the Cup.

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After giving up our 1st in 2011 for Versteeg, I think any chance of getting Vokoun went out the door. Even before the Versteeg deal, I put the chances of us getting Vokoun as pretty near zero.

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02-26-2011, 05:15 PM
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We'd need to move over 4 mil in salary, closer to 5 mil.

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02-26-2011, 05:33 PM
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Would Philly be able to add without losing someone off their roster?

I think this PO, the key for Philly will be watching the goaltenders closely and switching them fast if they falter. Having another option may be good.
If the flyers had vokoun, the flyers would finally have a goalie that could win a game by himself (wi only 1 goal scored). That is something that we haven't had in a long time. Is Vokoun the missing piece? This fan says yes. But i believe we can also win with Bouch. Just would rather Vokoun.
Hey, thoughts on Khabi? sure he could be had.


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02-26-2011, 05:42 PM
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If the flyers had vokoun, the flyers would finally have a goalie that could win a game by himself (wi only 1 goal scored). That is something that we haven't had in a long time. Is Vokoun the missing piece? This fan says yes. But i believe we can also win with Bouch. Just would rather Vokoun.
Hey, thoughts on Khabi? sure he could be had.
Khabi's contract is a nightmare.

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02-26-2011, 05:44 PM
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Pretty sure Khabby is on the IR, IIRC.

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After giving up our 1st in 2011 for Versteeg, I think any chance of getting Vokoun went out the door. Even before the Versteeg deal, I put the chances of us getting Vokoun as pretty near zero.
Id say that 1st is Versteeg going the other way to Florida....after all hes got another year for them....hes 3 mill....then maybe Carbomb or Shelley for cap reasons....then a prospect.....??? Or perhaps we may have to part with Boosh....maybe we could send them Leighton in a Boucher jersey???

I would be ALL over a Vokoun trade!!!

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If the Flyers can't get their PP in gear by the playoffs they will need a shutdown goalie like Vokoun to offset that key component of the game they are lacking big time right now. Boosh and Bob won't cut it because they can't win a game on their own or haven't shown it in a while now. At this point I'm willing to give up a roster player to get him because I don't think Boosh and Bob can get us through 4 rounds...

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02-27-2011, 01:39 AM
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They can't get a shutdown goalie like Vokoun because of the cap, unless my math is wrong. I'd rather stick with what we have, than blow it on a goalie.

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02-27-2011, 03:52 AM
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Vokoun for Nodl, Gustafsson and a 5th.

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02-27-2011, 09:16 AM
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I am hoping for him and Briere to both sign here again for a discounted price. We can have a strong team for many years.
Nope. Not Timo. In two years he will be old and useless, and I guarantee you Prongs will be very run down too given how hrad and tough he plays.

Philly WILL need that 6.3 mil to get a premium younger Dman to replace Timo.

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Nope. Not Timo. In two years he will be old and useless, and I guarantee you Prongs will be very run down too given how hrad and tough he plays.

Philly WILL need that 6.3 mil to get a premium younger Dman to replace Timo.
Timonen getting completely broken down might be somewhat of an issue because he's a small defenseman, but I don't think it will be to the point where he is "useless." I think it's more likely he goes back home to finish his career after this contract unless he really wants to stay. I don't think he'll play for another NHL team.

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02-27-2011, 10:59 AM
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Rumor is Chicago has re-signed Brent Seabrook for 5 years @ 5.8 mil. Ouch if true for them.

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02-27-2011, 11:03 AM
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Rumor is Chicago has re-signed Brent Seabrook for 5 years @ 5.8 mil. Ouch if true for them.
IT is true.

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02-27-2011, 11:15 AM
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flyers need to trade this season's PP for last season's PP.

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Last season's PP says no deal, wants a 2nd round pick coming the other way

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02-27-2011, 12:13 PM
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I think we should get Vokoun. Trade Carle+ if you have too. We havn't won a cup since ****ing 1975. We havn't had a star goalie since the 80's. Isn't any 1 else sick of this ****? Just get Vokoun. If we only have to move Carle of the playing roster right now, it's a no brainer. Were just a better team with Vokoun.

Say we had Vokoun last year instead of Leighton. We still have Pronger/Carle, Timonen/Coburn, and Parent/Kraijeck/Bartulis as our 5/6/7. I think we win the cup. Take Carle off of this team and you have Meszaros to fill his spot. (Not to mention Mez is cleary the better dman).

No one in the east would touch us with:

Pronger/Mez
Timonen/Coburn
O'donnell/Boynton/Call up

Vokoun
Bob

We have our greatest shot at a cup in a long while. I don't feel like hearing how the flyers lost it again because they didn't have that Goalie who could win a cup.


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02-27-2011, 12:44 PM
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I think we should get Vokoun. Trade Carle+ if you have too. We havn't won a cup since ****ing 1975. We havn't had a star goalie since the 80's. Isn't any 1 else sick of this ****? Just get Vokoun. If we only have to move Carle of the playing roster right now, it's a no brainer. Were just a better team with Vokoun.

Say we had Vokoun last year instead of Leighton. We still have Pronger/Carle, Timonen/Coburn, and Parent/Kraijeck/Bartulis as our 5/6/7. I think we win the cup. Take Carle off of this team and you have Meszaros to fill his spot. (Not to mention Mez is cleary the better dman).

No one in the east would touch us with:

Pronger/Mez
Timonen/Coburn
O'donnell/Boynton/Call up

Vokoun
Bob

We have our greatest shot at a cup in a long while. I don't feel like hearing how the flyers lost it again because they didn't have that Goalie who could win a cup.
If the salaries worked I'd consider it, but it will be difficult to get Vokoun under the cap. They would have to trade Carle +. Assuming Bob would be sent down to make room, Carle and Carcillo would make the salaries work, but then you have to hope that Zherdev plays well and no injuries occur, otherwise you are looking at Jody Shelley being part of this team in the playoffs. If Carle is getting traded I'd rather it be for a solid winger than a goalie. Boucher and Bob have this team as #6 for goals against. That's no accident.

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02-27-2011, 01:17 PM
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If the salaries worked I'd consider it, but it will be difficult to get Vokoun under the cap. They would have to trade Carle +. Assuming Bob would be sent down to make room, Carle and Carcillo would make the salaries work, but then you have to hope that Zherdev plays well and no injuries occur, otherwise you are looking at Jody Shelley being part of this team in the playoffs. If Carle is getting traded I'd rather it be for a solid winger than a goalie. Boucher and Bob have this team as #6 for goals against. That's no accident.
I am a fan of Bob for the future and Boosh has played awesome all year. The whole shutout stat was always kind of meaningless to me but when you really think of it, it's kind of alarming. Leighton had 3 shutouts in the ECF with a worse defense in front of him.

Bob has had his puckhandling issues and that has become a major problem. The last thing i want going into the playoffs is a problem of communication between the defense and the goalie.

I have been on Bob's side all year but now I am leaning towards Boucher if we keep these two. I like Boucher just as much as the rest of Philadelphia but he is what he is. Sure he has been steady all season long but that is because he hasn't had to carry the load by himself. Boucher's been known for going on hot streaks and cooling off. He cools off and then we have to panic and throw in a 22 yr old rookie who doesnt speak the native language.

If it is Carle/Nodl/3rd? I do that right now. Maybe we lose a little depth at wing but I'll take:

JVR-Richards-Versteeg
Leino-Briere-Hartnell
Giroux-Carter-Zherdev/Carcillo
Powe-Betts-Shelley/Carcillo/Wellwood

over any forward group in the league.

Yes were taking a chance on Zherdev but if he falters, Carcillo played in the top 9 last year in the playoffs and we still made it to the finals.

Take Z out of the top 9 and i still wouldn't trade our top 9 for any other in the league.

You could even go:

Leino-Briere-Hartnell
Giroux-Carter-JVR
Powe-Richards-Versteeg (Shutdown Line)
Carcillo-Betts-Wellwood/Shelley

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