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02-27-2011, 07:50 PM
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should montreal/toronto make a move?

its so hard for certain rivals to do deals with each other... alot of possible bad pr could result.

but there are certain teams that have certain problems with players not earning their contracts, which really mess up cap management for these teams.

In Montreal they got a struggling second line center making over 7 mill for the next three years who just hasnt fit in yet... and in Toronto they have a former first round drafted dman that actually looked decent back when he last played in montreal, but now he seems almost like a 6th dman most nights for them dragging down 4.5 mill cap hit to do it.

doesnt gomez for komasarek sort of make some sense? toronto wants to find a better playmaker to work with kessel... and gomez actually does a pretty decent job defensively on whatever line he plays with. a defensive smart center will help with kessel, cause kessel isnt that great defensively himself.

komaserek might not get rejuvinated back in montreal, but at least the canadiens save almost 3 mill on their cap. 3 mill will allow them to get a decent second line center to replace gomez. a 40-45 point scoring second liner shouldnt cost more then 3 mill and that is all gomez is when he plays for the canadiens.

if i was king of the world.. id suggest bozek gets thrown in from toronto and a second round draft pick comes back from montreal to balance out montreal's need for depth for their playoff run this year and the cap issue for this year. toronto deserves something for taking the horrible gomez contract. not a first, but i think a second seems fair.

best case... gomez holds down the fort the next 3 years for toronto and actually brings out the best in kessel. by the time 3 years have passed, either kadri or colborne have developed enough to knock gomez down to 2nd or 3rd line. gomez isnt a trouble maker for a locker room... he isnt a guy that floats on the ice. he has been a cup winner. long as you got cap room, there is no disgrace having this guy as part of a young team to help it develop.

meanwhile komasarek learns to live with the higher contract and finds comfort back in montreal and gets his career back. he does have size, and the rest of the montreal team is desperately smallish. it wont hurt them to have a guy on the blueline that is willing to play big.

so whats the verdict?

gomez/second
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komasarek/bozek

which teams fans think im the biggest idiot?

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02-27-2011, 07:54 PM
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I would rather not.

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toronto would rather not

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lol we don't want komisarek all of our defenseman are better than this guys who beat women

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Who's Bozek? Another College UFA Burke signed?

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Not really... if Gomez had less years on his deal (or made $4-5m), then it would make sense... but Toronto should be able to get rid of Komisarek much less painfully.

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Montreal gets fleeced in this deal. Gomez doesn't outright suck, Komisarek outright sucks.

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Even to get rid of gomez i am not taking komi back

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its so hard for certain rivals to do deals with each other... alot of possible bad pr could result.

but there are certain teams that have certain problems with players not earning their contracts, which really mess up cap management for these teams.

In Montreal they got a struggling second line center making over 7 mill for the next three years who just hasnt fit in yet... and in Toronto they have a former first round drafted dman that actually looked decent back when he last played in montreal, but now he seems almost like a 6th dman most nights for them dragging down 4.5 mill cap hit to do it.

doesnt gomez for komasarek sort of make some sense? toronto wants to find a better playmaker to work with kessel... and gomez actually does a pretty decent job defensively on whatever line he plays with. a defensive smart center will help with kessel, cause kessel isnt that great defensively himself.

komaserek might not get rejuvinated back in montreal, but at least the canadiens save almost 3 mill on their cap. 3 mill will allow them to get a decent second line center to replace gomez. a 40-45 point scoring second liner shouldnt cost more then 3 mill and that is all gomez is when he plays for the canadiens.

if i was king of the world.. id suggest bozek gets thrown in from toronto and a second round draft pick comes back from montreal to balance out montreal's need for depth for their playoff run this year and the cap issue for this year. toronto deserves something for taking the horrible gomez contract. not a first, but i think a second seems fair.

best case... gomez holds down the fort the next 3 years for toronto and actually brings out the best in kessel. by the time 3 years have passed, either kadri or colborne have developed enough to knock gomez down to 2nd or 3rd line. gomez isnt a trouble maker for a locker room... he isnt a guy that floats on the ice. he has been a cup winner. long as you got cap room, there is no disgrace having this guy as part of a young team to help it develop.

meanwhile komasarek learns to live with the higher contract and finds comfort back in montreal and gets his career back. he does have size, and the rest of the montreal team is desperately smallish. it wont hurt them to have a guy on the blueline that is willing to play big.

so whats the verdict?

gomez/second
for
komasarek/bozek

which teams fans think im the biggest idiot?
First off the Habs don't have a 2nd this upcomming draft and
Bozek is a free agent after this season.
Second i don't want Komi near my team .
Third i would love to dump Gomez's contract buy thats gonna be pretty hard.
Personaly i would rather have Gomez and his contract over Komi and his contract.
I have to pass as a Habs fan.

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I dont know where to start....

The way you spelled Komisarek resumes how bad your post is.

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which teams fans think im the biggest idiot?
Leafs for sure, but, Habs will also agree... So, you win the title undisputed

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No we need a center back so Gomez for Grabo and it's a deal.

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No we need a center back so Gomez for Grabo and it's a deal.
right?

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A $4.5 million #6 defenseman

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A $7 million 40 point centre

I would go with the latter and thus I would say the Leafs say no to this proposal.

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A $4.5 million #6 defenseman

OR

A $7 million 40 point centre

I would go with the latter and thus I would say the Leafs say no to this proposal.
Going with the latter = taking the $7m centre = Leafs would be saying yes...

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A $4.5 million #6 defenseman

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A $7 million 40 point centre

I would go with the latter and thus I would say the Leafs say no to this proposal.
This is his lowest year. Komisarek's as well. Before last year and the year before, Gomez was 1 and 2 points from 60 with a few games to go. Essentially 20 more points than what you give him credit for.

Maybe next year either one, or both turn it around. Or neither.

+ Going with the latter means taking the 2nd option, which is Gomez.

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It looked good until you threw in Bozak for a 2nd


and for the poster who said Bozak is a UFA, you are wrong, he is a RFA such as guys like Gorges, Weber, AK, Poluliot

Leafs still retain his rights

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gomez will get dealt to a budget team during his final 2 years when his actualy salary is closer to 5 mil and his cap hit is still 7. and you wont get any value for him

a cap spending team would be stupid to touch that gomez contract

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I'd do it.

Its cheaper to bury Komisarek rather than Gomez in the minors

Plus we get to end the turd's NHL career.

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I wouldn't call the OP an idiot. The deal looks ok on paper since Toronto has space to absorb the hit and need a center, and Montreal needs a hard hitting defenceman. The problem is that Komi lost a lot of respect from people in Montreal when he left. Also, why would we take Komi back when he seems capable of scoring on his own net more often than the opposition's? Sorry, couldn't resist. Komi is not what we want back. He never recovered from the Lucic beating. I hope he does one day turn it around and become a stellar player because he is a nice guy, but I wouldn't give up Gomez for him. I know some people are really down on Gomez, but I want to wait and see what he does for us in the playoffs before I condemn him. He was great for us last year and if he plays as well in this year's playoffs, I will still consider him a worthwhile player. If he blows chunks, then we will have to hope he gets dealt. Wait and see seems like the best option.

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gomez has, bar-none, the worst contract in the nhl. i will slice my testicles off if he is traded painlessly. and by painlessly i mean without montreal giving up a great prospect, or taking back the 2nd or 3rd worst contract back.

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