We just got a big (6'2, 207lbs), quick, and nasty 4th line centre who is currently around 54% in the dot, and helped shut-down the Capitals last playoffs for a 3rd round pick, and a piece of junk. The guy's also only 25 and not a rental; I'm pretty confident our management, coaching staff, and leadership group can handle his personality.
Reasoner's more of a 3rd line centre, and we already had one of those, and obviously Konopka wasn't available (though as I've mentioned he's a pretty similar player to Lapierre anyways).
It's not about doing favors but there still seems to be "old boys club" type of mentality. Seems like the returns on some other players seems to be a little less.
I personally don't buy into that conspiracy theory. Teams like Detroit always seem to have to overpay when compared to lesser teams to get a deal done. No one wants to help the best team in the NHL so you'll probably have to overpay in general. GM's are always looking for the best deal but they are also very competitive.
Sportsnet was pretty sour on it too. They think Lapierre is a bit uncoachable, doesn't respond well to discipline and don't think he'll fit in with the grand plan AV and MG have gotten the likes of Kesler and Burrows to buy into.
Although if Burrows, one of the league's most hated pests prior to this season, can turn a new leaf I'd imagine Lapierre could too.
But Burrows is known to be a really great teammate. He's the first in line to high five his teammates and to congratulate his goalie, and everybody's all smiles with him.
Not 100% sure that's the case with Lappy. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case, but we'll just have to see. I can't anticipate he'll be terrible in the room, though.
Both players have some baggage and unrealized potential - which is why we didn't have to give up a roster player or important prospect to obtain them. But if they are able to help us go deep into the playoffs this year, I'm happy to have them.
The reassuring thing for me with Lapierre is his history with AV, that's huge. It really allays a lot of my concerns about bringing in a guy with his reputation. I think this team has a really tight dressing room as well, so it should be pretty easy to bring a couple of new guys into the fold, especially since nobody was dealt away. Plus the players at whose expense the roster spots will come (Hodgson, Oreskovich, etc.) did not nail down their spots in such a way that losing them seems unjust.
Lapierre is a goof but hes effective,like others said higgins is a waste almost but could do something well. And now Raymond can sit if he has to. And we gave up Oberg who cant even defend in the A and sauve,tanev and even the rest of the first year guys moved ahead of him. And Perrault wasnt even helping on the 4th line or produce in the A. Losing picks sucks but this draft is hit and miss,not a horrible draft to say the least. and we also get Sharp who has seemed to not be the best player but he is consistant.
I agree that I would have preferred to pay a 4th round pick at best but we filled a need so if we had to bump a 4th round pick up to a 3rd round pick then whatever.
The way I see it I wouldn't be surprised to see us get a pick for the negotiating rights to either Bieksa or Ehrhoff. We should be able to get a 3rd round pick which will help offset the pick we lose in this trade.
4th rounder in 2011 or a 3rd rounder in 2012? It's roughly the same to me IMHO.
Last edited by Barney Gumble: 02-28-2011 at 05:05 PM.
To paraphrase Gillis' comments on the addition of Lapierre:
'He is not expected to play between the whistles, however he is expected to be a team player and do what the organization asks of him.'
'The draft pick traded is replaceable through either future deals or with FA signings.'
Ferraro is such an asshat sometimes. It sure looks to me like Nichol is trying to draw a penalty. He definitely gets pushed, and sometimes guys do lose their balance and go in awkwardly, but the way he was rolling around and clutching his face directly in front of the ref leads me to believe he was putting on a show.
Either way, Ferraro's tough guy act is pretty lame. It's getting to the point that he's coming off like someone's Grandpa. I keep expecting him to break out a "wipper-snapper" comment.
Given Vigneault's history with Max, this could be a good fit for the team. We've been waiting for someone who can play both a solid defensive game as well as irritate the opposition. His speed, faceoff skills and hitting should be the primary reason he was picked up.
Finally we have someone who can pester the other team (as it has been said before). It was so frustrating watching the Hawks be all over our guys, and especially Lou, with us doing nothing of the sorts.
Same thing this season, that hit on Ballard away from the play vs Ottawa was frustrating to watch ESPECIALLY with no one standing up for the guy after. Same with the Getzlaf hit on Hamhuis, although we've come to the conclussion that it was borderline, but not dirty.
Finally a guy who can step up to the plate and stir up some **** if he has to.
I love this trade. We've been missing the "agitation" element since Burrows moved to the top line and Kesler became such an important player for us. As long as AV can control him (which he's had difficulty in the past with discipline issues amongst players) from undisciplined outbursts this will be a very shrewd move. 100% approve of this trade.
Originally Posted by mrmyheadhurts
I honestly feel that the leadership group in the locker room, especially H. Sedin, is strong enough to keep Lappy in check. There is a culture that has been built that will pretty much force players to behave in a particular manner or risk being dropped. I love his enthusiasm, size and speed.
Agree with all of this. I like this trade. GMMG wouldn't have brought someone in he didn't think could be coached. Like someone else said, Kesler and Burrows were the two biggest agitators in the league and they have reformed.