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03-01-2011, 11:20 AM
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Seems like Plante is the last D in the AHL that would be called up.
But I know, I am not allowed to say something negative about our high draft pick.
Henceforth, you're not allowed to assume the role of victim, either.

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03-01-2011, 11:26 AM
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Henceforth, you're not allowed to assume the role of victim, either.
Am I at least allowed to slander about danes?

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03-01-2011, 11:30 AM
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Why bother calling up one of your prized prospects when he is getting top minutes on a winning team?

Hell If I could I would send Omark down to OKC to help them win as well.

Petiot is a stop gap on the worst team in the NHL. Stop getting your panties in a bunch

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03-01-2011, 11:37 AM
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Why bother calling up one of your prized prospects when he is getting top minutes on a winning team?

Hell If I could I would send Omark down to OKC to help them win as well.

Petiot is a stop gap on the worst team in the NHL. Stop getting your panties in a bunch
When shall young prospects play when not now?


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03-01-2011, 11:56 AM
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When shall young prospects play when not now?
Why rush them? Why expose them to the media here? There is no rush for guys like Teubert or Plante. They will be ready when they are ready.

You guys are going to eat alot of crow soon. The same guys that said Peckham would never make to the NHL. You are the same guys saying the same stupid **** about Plante

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Am I at least allowed to slander about danes?
Let's get it on! You're German!

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03-01-2011, 12:24 PM
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Why rush them? Why expose them to the media here? There is no rush for guys like Teubert or Plante. They will be ready when they are ready.

You guys are going to eat alot of crow soon. The same guys that said Peckham would never make to the NHL. You are the same guys saying the same stupid **** about Plante
Yeah hopefully. Would be nice if I am wrong with Plante.
His skating and passing is just so terrible...

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03-01-2011, 12:25 PM
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Let's get it on! You're German!
Relax, it was a joke.
Just came somehow to my mind as you were talking about playing victim.

But how can I say something negative about Danes?
Flemming Povlsen, one of the greatest guys ever, is a dane.


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03-01-2011, 12:33 PM
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Seems like Plante is the last D in the AHL that would be called up.
But I know, I am not allowed to say something negative about our high draft pick.
I think you can get away with this one, since everyone isn't high on Plante at all...

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03-01-2011, 01:22 PM
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Maybe Petiot just really deserved a call-up ... doesn't necessarily have to mean that Plante is absolute crap.

Breathe.

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03-01-2011, 01:35 PM
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I have watched Teubert and Plante alot and to be honest I think in a couple years Plante will be ready. Teubert I think needs confidence and where better to gain it then in an NHL franchise with only a couple spoken for positions on D?(LA was too deep on D he had virtually no shot at cracking the roster)
Seriously leave the kids alone until they have proven they cannot be NHL ready, They are all still young and you guys make it sound like they are at the end of their careers, Teubert is 20, Plante 21, I mean give them some time.

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03-01-2011, 01:52 PM
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I have watched Teubert and Plante alot and to be honest I think in a couple years Plante will be ready. Teubert I think needs confidence and where better to gain it then in an NHL franchise with only a couple spoken for positions on D?(LA was too deep on D he had virtually no shot at cracking the roster)
Seriously leave the kids alone until they have proven they cannot be NHL ready, They are all still young and you guys make it sound like they are at the end of their careers, Teubert is 20, Plante 21, I mean give them some time.
In a couple years...do you know that Plante is 22 in 2 months?
So he is NHL ready at 24 or 25?
In other teams play 20 year old Defensemen, so don't say 24 is normally for D.

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03-01-2011, 02:02 PM
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In a couple years...do you know that Plante is 22 in 2 months?
So he is NHL ready at 24 or 25?
In other teams play 20 year old Defensemen, so don't say 24 is normally for D.
It's rare though.

There are 9 or 10 that have been NHL regulars this year.

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03-01-2011, 02:58 PM
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The amount of sheer panic on these boards is getting to be crazy.

Seriously, just sit down, breathe in, breathe out, wait and see what happens.

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In a couple years...do you know that Plante is 22 in 2 months?
So he is NHL ready at 24 or 25?
In other teams play 20 year old Defensemen, so don't say 24 is normally for D.
actually it's alot more common for dmen to develop later than forwards, i thought that was common knowledge among these boards. apparently not.

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03-01-2011, 03:26 PM
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The mean, physical, huge guys with passable puck skills always take a little longer to develop. Calm down.

Willie Mitchell was 23 in his first full season
Barret Jackman was 22 in his first full season.
Brooks Orpik was 23 in his first full season.
Mike Komisarek was 23 in his first full season.
Matt Greene was 23 in his first full season
Tim Gleason was 22 in his first full season
Mark Fistric was 23 in his first full season
Jeff Schultz was 22 in his first full season


There's a trend and a learning curve for these types of defensive d-men. Let them get a firm grasp on the pro game and let them take their time.

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03-01-2011, 03:30 PM
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actually it's alot more common for dmen to develop later than forwards, i thought that was common knowledge among these boards. apparently not.
False knowledge perhaps. It isn't normal that D's begin their NHL career with 24, 25.

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03-01-2011, 03:34 PM
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The mean, physical, huge guys with passable puck skills always take a little longer to develop. Calm down.

Willie Mitchell was 23 in his first full season
Barret Jackman was 22 in his first full season.
Brooks Orpik was 23 in his first full season.
Mike Komisarek was 23 in his first full season.
Matt Greene was 23 in his first full season
Tim Gleason was 22 in his first full season
Mark Fistric was 23 in his first full season
Jeff Schultz was 22 in his first full season


There's a trend and a learning curve for these types of defensive d-men. Let them get a firm grasp on the pro game and let them take their time.
Yes, 23 is normally the latest when D's start their first full NHL season.
When they didn't make it in that time span it is pretty seldom that they will be solid NHLers one day.

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Yes, 23 is normally the latest when D's start their first full NHL season.
When they didn't make it in that time span it is pretty seldom that they will be solid NHLers one day.
I hate to break it to you but Plante isn't 23.

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03-01-2011, 03:54 PM
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Yes, 23 is normally the latest when D's start their first full NHL season.
When they didn't make it in that time span it is pretty seldom that they will be solid NHLers one day.
Yeah, so? Plante gets called up for 20-30 games next year and then starts the 2012-2013 season on the regular season when he is 23. He's still got a shot and didn't look terribly out of place in his call-up last year.

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Don't argue with OilerOil logic and reasoning will not work so don't bother.

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03-01-2011, 04:15 PM
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I hate to break it to you but Plante isn't 23.
Just read the whole thread.

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Just read the whole thread.
What's to read? No where does this thread talk about guys having to make an impact at 23. Guys start in the league anywhere from 18-25. Guys hit start their prime years as early as 20 and sometimes not til 30.

No two players are alike and there is no reason to start getting concerned over guys that are 20-22, although like one poster said people were writing Peckham off this summer so it really is the norm on these boards at times.

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Not writing Plante off yet, but it's very bothersome watching everyone else get a sniff, besides him. Makes me wonder.
You don't have to wonder, he was HORRIBLE during the Barons v Heat game in Calgary. HORRIBLE. He was putting easy passes 5 ft ahead or behind the forwards.

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You don't have to wonder, he was HORRIBLE during the Barons v Heat game in Calgary. HORRIBLE. He was putting easy passes 5 ft ahead or behind the forwards.
I thought he improved as the game went on but his first period was simply rancid.

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