*Take a deep breath* - and take this thread with a grain of salt.. it's just a concept thread!
was sitting here thinking about some of regiers comments about the boyes pickup in his presser, and coupling them with some of the thoughts i've had about players since the captains left..
i dono why i thought to do it but i brought up career stats of both boyes and drury prior to coming to buffalo. *TAKE ANOTHER DEEP BREATH* i'm not saying i think boyes is going to be the next drury, all i'm saying is from what i've heard, read, and seen from him has some interesting correlation to what i heard read and saw from drury before we picked him up. nothing super substantial to be found, but its always fun to compare nonetheless. boyes will never be captain clutch or mr intangibles, but he could be something new, who knows. a new owners first splash in the player market means something to a player or a team.. or to fans, doesn't it?
just thought i'd throw it out there to see if anyone wanted to take it down that road. i understand if people dont want to go there - drury is still a sensitive subject around here.
This trade has a Briere vibe to it. Not saying he's going to be Briere, but a similar situation where someone needed a change to restart his career.
i feel you on that, but remember, drury was also needing a change of scenery.. had a pretty good run with colorado then went to calgary and seemed lost.. came here, was pretty average, then the team matured and so did his game.
i can see something along those lines happening with boyes. its just exciting to see a guy with decent skill come in and not be on the fast track out of town as a rental.
Drury was never a guy whose value came statistically. Sure, his stat totals boomed when he got here, but when we picked him up he was a defensive center, a leader and a winner. His value came in intangibles.
Briere was a talented, streaky player who'd worn out his welcome in Phoenix. He put up numbers, but his overall play angered fans and led management to cut ties with him for a guy named Chris Gratton.
If you ask me, the Briere comparison makes a lot more sense.
Eh. Drury was far more accomplished than Boyes. He came in and changed the culture because he was a proven winner. Boyes is - while talented offensively - far from a "proven winner." And I think that major difference is enough to dismiss the comparison.
Drury is a defensive first forward, Boyes is pretty much only regarded as an offensive forward. Definitely closer to Briere than anything, although I don't really think either is a particularly good comparison.
Drury is a defensive first forward, Boyes is pretty much only regarded as an offensive forward. Definitely closer to Briere than anything, although I don't really think either is a particularly good comparison.
Agreed. Another good reason why the comparison isn't spot-on.
Drury was never a guy whose value came statistically. Sure, his stat totals boomed when he got here, but when we picked him up he was a defensive center, a leader and a winner. His value came in intangibles.
Briere was a talented, streaky player who'd worn out his welcome in Phoenix. He put up numbers, but his overall play angered fans and led management to cut ties with him for a guy named Chris Gratton.
If you ask me, the Briere comparison makes a lot more sense.
I actually think he developed into a leader here.
In Colorado he was the 3rd line center behind two of the best centers in hockey (Forsberg/Sakic). I find it very hard to believe he was a leader in that lockerroom. It was his 3rd year in the NHL when Colorado won their 2 Cup in 6yrs in 00-01. That roster had the likes of Sakic, Forsberg, Foote, Bourque, Blake and Roy. He probably learned a lot about leadership from those guys though.
Eh. Drury was far more accomplished than Boyes. He came in and changed the culture because he was a proven winner. Boyes is - while talented offensively - far from a "proven winner." And I think that major difference is enough to dismiss the comparison.
This.
Drury had a Cup and was a proven leader. Boyes doesn't seem like much of the leader type.
I don't think it much like Drury or Briere. Completely different scenarios and completely different players at the time of the deal.
I think is Boyes only comparable in the sense that he could benefit from a change in scenery and playing with some different guys.
One thing I do like is his attitude. He wants to come in and play hard. He knows how players can come in and be stagnant and try and get acclimated to a new team. He wants to come in and skate hard.
Drury had a Cup and was a proven leader. Boyes doesn't seem like much of the leader type.
I don't think it much like Drury or Briere. Completely different scenarios and completely different players at the time of the deal.
I think is Boyes only comparable in the sense that he could benefit from a change in scenery and playing with some different guys.
One thing I do like is his attitude. He wants to come in and play hard. He knows how players can come in and be stagnant and try and get acclimated to a new team. He wants to come in and skate hard.
I just hope his words translate to actions.
I know many posters believe this but what are they basing it on?
From what I've seen of Boyes, and from what most Blues fans have said, he's far from a top notch defensive player. One play in the grand scheme of things doesn't change that. I'm not saying he's a black hole defensively, he's average, but his offense is the reason is certainly the reason why we got him.
For the record, the only comparison I made to Briere was the nature of the acquisition as being unheralded and hoping there is still an upside to the player. Regier mentioned that he was looking to make a Briere-type deal again, and I'm betting that he is hoping Boyes is it.
