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03-03-2011, 04:07 PM
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Points Per Game Ranking - Top 4 Overall Drafted CHL Players

I know stats doesn't tell the whole picture but I thought it would be interesting to see how the Top 3 prospects playing in the CHL this year are doing compared to previous forwards that were drafted Top 4 overall out of the CHL.

Note: At an attempt to evenly compare player's stats as fairly as possible, the Points Per Game average is based on each player's junior season as a 17 year old or older only. Some players only played in the CHL for one season after turning 17. These players (noted in *) could have skewed numbers because only 1 season's production is used.

Disclaimer: I did this quick and dirty so please excuse any errors.

Here's the ranking of PPG from best to worst:

Sidney Crosby* 2.71
Patrick Kane** 2.50
John Tavares 1.93
Steven Stamkos* 1.72
Tyler Seguin* 1.68
Taylor Hall 1.64
Evander Kane* 1.57
<-- Where Sean Couturier is at the moment at 1.56
Bobby Ryan 1.52
<-- Where RNH is at the moment at 1.40
Matt Duchene* 1.39
Eric Staal 1.30
Ryan Johansen 1.17
Nathan Horton 1.15
<-- Where Landeskog is at the moment at 1.07
Jordan Staal* 1.00
Benoit Pouliot 1.00
Andrew Ladd 0.87

*Graduated from the CHL early
**Patrick Kane only played one season in the OHL as an 18 yr old

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03-03-2011, 04:12 PM
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Include Stome! just for kicks, he's putting up comparable numbers

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Include Stome! just for kicks, he's putting up comparable numbers
Strome is averaging at 1.03 PPG so far so he ranks below Landeskog.

One of the flaws of this list is that there are some players that are excluded b/c more defensemen were drafted before them in the top 4.

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Interesting idea, however I think a better comparioson would be their offensive production in their draft year only. Another thing that may skew these numbers is the league a player was in.

QMJHL is not known for its stellar defensive play as example.

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Interesting idea, however I think a better comparioson would be their offensive production in their draft year only. Another thing that may skew these numbers is the league a player was in.

QMJHL is not known for its stellar defensive play as example.
Agree with this. Good thread idea though

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....so we picked the wrong year to suck?

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Interesting idea, however I think a better comparioson would be their offensive production in their draft year only. Another thing that may skew these numbers is the league a player was in.

QMJHL is not known for its stellar defensive play as example.
True enough but only Crosby from that list is drafted out of the Q. Also, only E.Kane, Ladd, and Johansen from that list is drafted out of the Dub. The rest is OHL.

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....so we picked the wrong year to suck?
Not sure you can draw a conclusion like that quite so easily, unless of course you were comparing to 2005.

Couturier is producing at 1.71 PPG so far this year, that puts him in some pretty heady territory. Landeskog is currently at 1.37 and is picking up the pace after his injury.

Either of these two could become excellent producers in the NHL, based on how others with similar numbers have performed.


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True enough but only Crosby from that list is drafted out of the Q. Also, only E.Kane, Ladd, and Johansen from that list is drafted out of the Dub. The rest is OHL.
Obviously didn't go far enough with my qualification. I guess I should have said ONE difference is the league, other factors would be the coaches system, the overall quality of the team, etc etc.

All I was attempting to point out is that PPG is a measure, but far from an exact measure when using it as a comparative.

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I'm undecided about the big-three forwards.
I think I'd want RNH least of the trio, because I see him as a boom/bust guy.
It's a tossup between Landeskog and Couturier for me, and I hope to see Landeskog this Sunday.

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Obviously didn't go far enough with my qualification. I guess I should have said ONE difference is the league, other factors would be the coaches system, the overall quality of the team, etc etc.

All I was attempting to point out is that PPG is a measure, but far from an exact measure when using it as a comparative.
Definitely. But it is interesting that the 2 worst CHL players picked Top 4 also happened to be the worst PPG in the list.

Here's the ranking based on Draft Year only:

Sidney Crosby* 2.71
Patrick Kane** 2.50
Taylor Hall 1.86
John Tavares 1.86
Steven Stamkos* 1.72
SC 1.71
Tyler Seguin* 1.68
Bobby Ryan 1.61
Evander Kane* 1.57
Eric Staal 1.48
RNH 1.40
Matt Duchene* 1.39
Landeskog 1.38
Ryan Johansen 1.37
Nathan Horton 1.26
Jordan Staal* 1.00
Benoit Pouliout 1.00
Andrew Ladd 0.69

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Couturier and Landeskog probably have higher upside than RNH anyway.

Also I think it should also only take into account draft year.

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I don't care who we get, as long as it's one of those top 3 forwards. There is still great talent near the top of this draft. Hopefully Murray can do something with the Nashville pick to get near the top 10.

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Hopefully this can help:

http://www.behindthenet.ca/projecting_to_nhl.html

I'm in an airport waiting for a flight so I don't have time to help analyze but I'll do it Sunday when I get back.

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just stunned that you didn't include spezza (just for kicks)

2.02 pts per game I think

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Couturier and Landeskog probably have higher upside than RNH anyway.

Also I think it should also only take into account draft year.
Lando has the lowest ceilling of the top forwards.

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