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03-05-2011, 06:45 PM
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the ref just missed a call.
I still stand by the ref on that play. It shouldn't have been a call.

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03-05-2011, 06:51 PM
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You called Sedin a dick and the ref a dick. That's rich. Sedin was just playing hockey, the ref just missed a call. The only person that was doing what he shouldn't have was Doughty. You know, litteraly chasing a ref who is running away is in fact being a "dick".

“Burrows runs into me, as his original shot is taken, and it’s not called,” Quick said. “Maybe if I dive like they do, you get that call, but otherwise I guess you don’t. … I just know that, on the original shot, I’m not allowed to make the save I want to make, because Burrows bumps me. You’ve got to allow the goaltender to attempt to make the save he’s trying to make. Other than that, at the end of the day we didn’t play good enough. We’ve got to play better.”


So... tell me you going to make a thread calling Quick embarrassing?

You're acting like Doughty stopped playing. He didn't get sent off till a couple of seconds left in the game. The guy, and the whole team + coaching staff, was clearing giving it to the Refs but he was still in the game.

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jesters aside, he actually reminds me greatly of Crosby's first couple years...

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“Burrows runs into me, as his original shot is taken, and it’s not called,” Quick said. “Maybe if I dive like they do, you get that call, but otherwise I guess you don’t. … I just know that, on the original shot, I’m not allowed to make the save I want to make, because Burrows bumps me. You’ve got to allow the goaltender to attempt to make the save he’s trying to make. Other than that, at the end of the day we didn’t play good enough. We’ve got to play better.”


So... tell me you going to make a thread calling Quick embarrassing?

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Drew has a history. You lost the debate so you are diverting the argument. Pretty lame if you ask me.

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Drew Doughty as a player:
Thanks for posting that. Those were mature comments. I hope he came to that realization himself instead of getting counciled by the team or players.

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03-05-2011, 07:05 PM
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Yes, he acts out sometimes, but you are grasping at straws with a lot of what you are saying.

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Drew has a history. You lost the debate so you are diverting the argument. Pretty lame if you ask me.

I'm not "diverting the argument" it's a gigantic difference if one guy is running around jumping up and down about something the team doesn't care about against someone with the cameras on him being visible but in no way being alone.

Big freaking difference between being angry as PART of the team and being angry by yourself or for yourself.

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03-05-2011, 07:11 PM
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That's cool to see that he knows he has a problem. Hopefully he'll keep it in check a little better.

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... Maybe it's just me, but I really feel good that there's someone who outwardly cares about winning and losing in a Kings' uniform. Over the years, I've seen so many players come by L.A. and act as if they're just punching a clock, didn't give a **** about winning or losing, or anything. They were coming to California to retire, to play out the string, to get paid before they went back to the place and the people they really cared about.

As much as I use statistics and try and take an analytical approach to this game, and as much as I stress that things have to be done the right way and executed properly - there has to be those moments of emotion where players care enough about the team and their teammates that they'll give that little bit extra when times get tough. Drew Doughty is a special player who loves being a Los Angeles King. I can't tell you how much that means to me, as a fan of this team for longer than I care to admit. Sure, he's gonna make a horse's ass out of himself at times, and he's going to be immature. I'm willing to deal with that to have the player that he is. I don't expect 100% perfection, especially from someone that young. He's learning how to be the captain and leader of this team that he will one day be. If the Kings ever win the Stanley Cup, Drew will be the first one to lift it. I can live with the maturation process, because I think that in time it will all be worth it.

Drew Doughty makes me believe. And - what more can a player do for a fan?

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03-05-2011, 07:18 PM
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... Maybe it's just me, but I really feel good that there's someone who outwardly cares about winning and losing in a Kings' uniform. Over the years, I've seen so many players come by L.A. and act as if they're just punching a clock, didn't give a **** about winning or losing, or anything. They were coming to California to retire, to play out the string, to get paid before they went back to the place and the people they really cared about.

As much as I use statistics and try and take an analytical approach to this game, and as much as I stress that things have to be done the right way and executed properly - there has to be those moments of emotion where players care enough about the team and their teammates that they'll give that little bit extra when times get tough. Drew Doughty is a special player who loves being a Los Angeles King. I can't tell you how much that means to me, as a fan of this team for longer than I care to admit. Sure, he's gonna make a horse's ass out of himself at times, and he's going to be immature. I'm willing to deal with that to have the player that he is. I don't expect 100% perfection, especially from someone that young. He's learning how to be the captain and leader of this team that he will one day be. If the Kings ever win the Stanley Cup, Drew will be the first one to lift it. I can live with the maturation process, because I think that in time it will all be worth it.

Drew Doughty makes me believe. And - what more can a player do for a fan?
Well said.

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03-05-2011, 07:26 PM
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At what point is it ok to respect Drew's talent but realise that he's a classless jerk and an embarrasment to the Kings and hockey? Every damn game I have to see him throw a tantrum, curse at the camera, take a cheap shot when he gets a vendetta in his head, talk trash, showboat, and now dive. He checks mentally checks out of games. The kid has a couple screws loose. He begged for that dive call for his showing up the ref. The guy had to be detained and was litteraly chasing the ref who was running away. I knew he was going to get kicked out or do something worse.

I'm going to get raked over the coals for this thread but if was just an average talent everyone would hate this guy. The fans, the media, and I'm sure his teammates would not appreciate his act. This is not a knee jerk reaction. Everyone knows that I have been saying this since the playoffs last year.

I am embarrassed as a Kings fan. I am certain there will be some heat Drew is about to take. The guy is still one of my favorite Kings but I can't respect him as a person.
Ive noticed this year that Drew has seemed to develop an ego, and that he runs at the mouth alot. I personally have never liked it when players yap so much, rather ive always felt they should let their game do the talking for them.

I am concerned that Doughty is going to let his temper and ego get the best of him, and his success is going to go to his head. He is young, and all young stars need to learn how to deal with success.

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03-05-2011, 08:04 PM
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At what point is it ok to respect Drew's talent but realise that he's a classless jerk and an embarrasment to the Kings and hockey? Every damn game I have to see him throw a tantrum, curse at the camera, take a cheap shot when he gets a vendetta in his head, talk trash, showboat, and now dive. He checks mentally checks out of games. The kid has a couple screws loose. He begged for that dive call for his showing up the ref. The guy had to be detained and was litteraly chasing the ref who was running away. I knew he was going to get kicked out or do something worse.

I'm going to get raked over the coals for this thread but if was just an average talent everyone would hate this guy. The fans, the media, and I'm sure his teammates would not appreciate his act. This is not a knee jerk reaction. Everyone knows that I have been saying this since the playoffs last year.

I am embarrassed as a Kings fan. I am certain there will be some heat Drew is about to take. The guy is still one of my favorite Kings but I can't respect him as a person.
So what he does in the middle of a hotly contested game equates to how he is as a person? To use terms like "embarrassment" and "can't respect him as a person" is just a joke. Get off your high horse man.

Ron Artest has done some of the worst things ever in a basketball arena yet he spends numerous hours doing community service and he auctions off his championship ring to help those with mental illness.

Playing a highly competitive game and real life are two different things

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What a lame thread! It's called "PASSION"! We need more of it!

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He is extremely talented but if he can't get his psyche and talent aligned, it will not pay off. The young Canadians coming through the system have a bit of an ego...it's what cost them the world juniors.

He dove in front of the net and it cost the Kings the game. If you want to blame this on the refs, watch it again and tell me it's that easy for a jab to the lower back to knock over 200+ pounds of hockey player who lives on skates. He should only be mad at himself and his attitude the rest of the game was affected by that.

Again, great player, but needs to grow up.
Couldn't agree more. He needs to shut his piehole and just play. If he does that he will get the respect he deserves from the refs, from the other team, and more importantly from his own teammates.

You can show your passion and your hate of losing without yapping at the refs everytime they miss a call or you get hit and don't like it. Grow up kid.

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I don't know noname, he is 20 isn't he? To me what he needs is a Captain who is a leader both on and off the ice at this stage in his development.

I kind of give the kid a break because at his age just being the player that he is has to mess with your head a little. I don't see it as being anything terminal. They said the same things about a couple of other star dmen in the NHL when they first started out too and none of them where 20 year olds.

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I don't know noname, he is 20 isn't he? To me what he needs is a Captain who is a leader both on and off the ice at this stage in his development.
oh, now it's Brown's fault. Give me a ****** break.

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I blame the gold medal. Seriously.

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oh, now it's Brown's fault. Give me a ****** break.
Awww come on Q, don't go getting so upset that you have to resort to swear words, its not all that bad and when that is all you have for an argument well it just doesn't speak so well for you. I made an observation, go ahead and tell me why you think that I am wrong and I will tell you where I see DB as not being the perfect captain for our young team.

Give it a go, you can do it!


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I'll take someone who cares anytime. He's a young kid and he'll learn maturity on the job. There are enough vets in the room that'll help him with that, but you don't put a muzzle on that kind of passion.

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Tony, you took those words right out of Murphs mouth, didn't you?


Passion, I agree.

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I love the passion he shows, but I wish he focused it instead of running his mouth. I can see how some might view it as annoying or distasteful. He's young though, so I'm sure as he gets older he will be more mature about it and use it to drive his game up a notch instead of getting taken out of the game like that. Hopefully he becomes like Kobe Bryant(who also has a temper but when it comes down to it uses it to drive his game better and has that killer instinct). I think that people forget Doughty is only 20.... its not like hes 27 and been in the league for 9 years and is still doing this. Passion is needed to be a great athlete and to be a champion, so I'd rather have him be like he is now then someone who had all the talent in the world and didn't care.

In essence, do you want Doughty to be Kobe Bryant or Tracy McGrady....

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Question: Did any of the officials say anything to you about the non-call?

DOUGHTY: “No, they didn’t talk to me. I was just kind of yelling at them, I guess. That’s one thing I’ve got to work on. I get frustrated at the refs too often, and sometimes I say things I wish I didn’t say. It’s something I’ve got to learn from.

He'll get it eventually.

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